A few readers have asked about whether Dewalt will be coming out with FlexVolt 10″ cordless miter saws, to complement their very excellent 12″ saws.
The answer is yes, they already do make a 10″ FlexVolt cordless miter saws.
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There are 2 Dewalt FlexVolt miter saws that are available overseas but not in the USA. There’s DCS777, shown above, which has an 8-1/2″ blade size, and DCS778, which has a 10″ blade size.
These are both 60V Max models, not 120V Max like the 12″ saws available in the USA.
I asked Dewalt about whether we’ll see this in the USA, and they said that 1) right now there are no plans to introduce a 10″ FlexVolt saw in the USA [that they can tell me about?], and 2) US users typically do not prefer this type of sliding miter saw.
Dewalt isn’t alone in this. Well before the release of their M18 Fuel cordless miter saw, Milwaukee came out with a different design in Europe, with an 8.5″ blade size.
I wonder why US users don’t like that type of design, with both Dewalt models and the older Milwaukee model having internal vertical rail sliding system.
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Both the 8.5″ and 10″ FlexVolt miter saws feature Dewalt’s LED shadowing cut guidance system. They both have brushless motors. The 10″ saw has a cut capacity of 12″ wide and ~3.35″ deep at 90°, and the 8.5″ saw has a cut capacity of 10.63″ wide and 2.44″ deep at 90°.
If you’re adamant about getting your hands on one of these saws, check with your favorite UK or EU tool source. The freight fees will likely be ghastly, if they’re willing to ship the bare miter saws overseas at all.
It’s a shame, really. Despite my strong affinity for Dewalt’s very excellent 12″ FlexVolt sliding miter saw, with its 2x battery system and included AC adapter, I often like a more compact saw size. I am also very optimistic about the efficiency of the dust collection on these European saws.
Austin werrmann
That’s why I am going to get the 7.25 20v saw to compliment my flexvolt. I hear a brushless model is coming soon. That’s why the saws are all on sale at HD
Bremon
I’ve heard that both a 10″ NA mitre and table saw are in the works which should both be hybrid like the DHS790. We’ll see. I prefer the larger more expensive tools to be corded/cordless in case batteries are ever difficult to come by.
Stuart
I believe that a 120V Max table saw is in the works. Why wouldn’t it be?
A 10″ sliding miter saw for North America also makes a lot of sense.
A brushless 7-1/4″ slider? Now that there’s a brushless circular saw on the horizon, https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/dewalt-20v-brushless-circular-saw-dcs570/%3C/a%3E , it would be silly to not assume that an updated miter saw is in the works.
I love that little miter saw, but there are aspects I absolutely hate, such as changing the blade.
Bremon
The XR version of the 7.25″ mitre is due out this year. I imagine we will see multiple brushed tools updated to brushless. I also wouldn’t expect thoughtful upgrades to features at the same time; see 20v Max compact recip. Now brushless but with the same vibration as its predecessor.
Big Richard
Still waiting on the 7 1/4″ XR miter saw, almost 2 years later…
fred
I agree that for larger/more costly tools you might want to hedge your bets – to try to insure that they will last an adequate number of years. While battery packs probably can be rebuilt by third parties after manufacturers stop producing them, there is less of an issue with a corded tool or a tool that can operate in both modes.
We would categorize our tools as either “expense” or “capital” items. The separation threshold for us was $500. Capital tools would be put on a depreciation schedule – those under $500 would be expensed in the year that we bought them. So while from an accounting standpoint, we didn’t require more than a year of use – we certainly expected more. What was sobering was that quite a few cordless tools – once they failed – seemed to be uneconomical to service – contributing to our throwaway society filling its garbage dumps.
Cr8on
Would love to see a US 10″ miter
Nathan
I think of of the bigger issues in american mitre saws all moved to the double compound idea. I don’t know I’ve seen a european or asian mitre saw that does double compound. Let alone double and slider. Which yes makes it all bigger.
if it was cheaper I wouldn’t mind the 10 inch I mean that’s what I use now- corded. But it would have to be a 10 inch slider, double compound (or double bevel I guess – whatever the term is)
What I really want is a new mitre with that LED light thing.
Toolpig
I would love a 10″ double bevel sliding Saw from DeWalt. It only makes sense. Their current 10″ corded has great performance and capacity. It has better dust collection than the flexvolt 12″. It is nicer to use than the fuel 10″ saw. I feel it needs to still be dual battery 120vmax and corded/ cordless but I imagine it will be a 60v max and have no AC adapter.
Nathan
I have to agree with that comment that is should be a X2 system or at a minium allow for some sort of plug adapter.
David Funk
Still back here with the 7 1/4 cordless miter. Does what I need it to. Run time is good with 5Ah and amazing with 9Ah Flexvolt. Its light weight and cost effective. The 12 inch slider is mostly in the shop.
Blythe M
Does anyone else think the first picture looks like the new Makita rear handle circular saw? Chop the rails off, put a baseplate on it, and viola! – instant flexvolt faux wormdrive
Goodnightjohnboy
I’m with you on this one Mr Stuart. I prefer a smaller miter saw myself. 12″ saws take up too much room & they ain’t light to carry. It doesn’t make much sense to only have the 12″ available. The fact that not everyone wants the 12″ & can’t buy a smaller one sucks pretty bad. Come on, 2+2=4, duh. I guess the sales division couldn’t figure that one out. Pretty disappointing that its a 12″ or nothing . I was opposed to the idea of a cordless miter saw at first, but I used one all day a few weeks ago & thought it was pretty cool. But the slim chance of me buying one just is now null. Maybe I’ll consider one if a competitor releases a smaller saw, but there’s no rush.
Stuart
Give it time.
Dewalt launched a lot of FlexVolt tools at once, but they couldn’t do everything.
I take it that their research showed a high powered 12″ cordless miter saw would be of greater demand, so that’s what they did first. Their Portable Power Station means that, until they come out with a 10″ in the USA, any corded 10″ saw could be turned into a cordless one.
John Fal
I don’t see how it’s wise for Dewalt keeping them out of the ??USA??. They should alteast try them here. I’ve looked at the 54v sliding miter online in the UK and I was hoping that they where on the way here. Not wanting in invest in the 120v because it would be an over kill for me. So I was thinking the 54v/60v 10″ or 8-1/2″ would be the perfect fit for me. So Im still waiting for the next thing to come along. Seems to me a 60v slider would be just the right fit.
Stuart
They might have a different designed on the roadmap for USA release.
Even if not, these brands know what sells well regionally, and what doesn’t. Milwaukee’s first cordless miter saw never made it here either. If they thought it would have sold well, I’m sure they would have made it available in the US.
JoeM
I’m going to be unpopular for this comment but…
If the 10″ was a Tile Saw, and the 8″ was a Metal Cutting/Chop Saw… I see no reason why they wouldn’t be popular in North America. I would agree that the bigger styles of complex miter saws don’t make a lot of sense in North America unless they’re capable of large cuts like the 12″ is. Otherwise that’s a really big saw to do very tiny things, with a really big battery on it. Here in North America our “Bigger is Better” cultural reflex does seem to see that “It’s such a big saw for so little use” as a bad thing for mass-market. Maybe not for specialty markets where the higher torque values pay for themselves, but North America is a much, much bigger market, so they can’t play the field so easily.
Now… Replace the Miter base with a Tile Cutting base and Cooling Fluid tank for the 10″, and a modified Pipe and Bar Cutting groove base on the 8″, and you would probably fit right in on our mass-market North American sensibilities with such a big saw, dedicated to the Tile and Metal Cutting types.
John Fal
I agree in part that a good cordless tile saw would be useful. Not every building site has electric handy. Not sure I’d ever need a cordless chop saw though.
JoeM
I may be using the wrong term, as I don’t use these kinds of saws often. Pipe and Bar cutter. Metal, you know, with the cooling fluid like I mentioned with the tile cutter? But, with a groove and clamp system to hold odd shaped bars/pipes/tubes/etc. in place to be cut, where the Wood Miter saw tends to just deal with relatively flat, or relatively easy-to-clamp-in-place shaped things.
I’m talking if the 10″ and the 8″ weren’t Wood Miter Saws, but one or the other was for Tile and the other was for Metal.
If it makes you feel any better I wouldn’t actually use them at all, as to my recollection I have never used a Tile or Metal (Chop?) Saw in my life. But, the motor-forward design does say “Higher Torque” to me, which says “Harder to Cut than Wood”… So I’m extrapolating… I can very easily be wrong here.
I wouldn’t mind being corrected as to the name of the saw I’m talking about, because frankly I think I am using the wrong term.
Ryan
The fixed, rail-forward design like these euro models have (and the festool kapex) seems way better, especially for compact saws. I believe hitachi uses this in some models as well. Next best thing to the Bosch Glide mechanism. I wonder about Bosch’s patent there, and why nobody is trying to produce something similar.
Matt
A couple of Craftsman’s sliding mitre saws have the rail-forward design too. I looked at both the 7 1/4 inch and 10 inch. The forward rail made their 10 inch go off balance when pulled forward. Pretty unsafe if not held or bolted down. The 7 1/4 inch however was stable as could be. I loved it… Super compact! The problem was the rest of it was built poorly like the mitre angle indicator being a cheap sticker that wasn’t even placed in the right spot. I would have bought one if it were made with a little more quality in mind. If it were battery powered I would have been in heaven. If SBD-DeWalt can keep the rail-forward design for those and improve on the quality. I’m all in.
For the saws above, I can see why the 10 inch battery stuff wasn’t first priority. If you want a lot of cutting capacity, I don’t see a 10 inch slider being that much more compact or a whole lot lighter than a 12 inch slider. If you have to lug it around, may as well go 12. If compact and lightweight is the goal, those 7 1/4 inch sliders offer a lot in terms of cutting capacity. It would be my go to saw for sure in probably 90% of my projects. An 8.5 wouldn’t gain much traction IMO simply because of blade availability and interchangeability.
Oddly, I find a 10 inch rail-forward slider would be ideal for the bench in my garage. I bought a fixed 10 inch just because of counter space where I mounted it. If I were carrying it around though, I’d prefer the other sizes. I know that others feel the exact opposite though and see a 10 inch slider as the best of both worlds. So I’m sure it’s coming.
Goodnightjohnboy
Dewalt has a 20v max 7¼ slider miter saw at HD stores now. You may have a stroke when you see the price, but they have em. I guess that’s why the 60v 8½ ain’t here. Plus the 8.5 blades aren’t readily available here. I’m just having a hard time with prices being close to triple for the cordless compared to corded. I’ll wait patiently for the prices to drop. There’s not a great sense of urgency for me to own one as of yet. Something that I’ve always wondered is why they only have 7.25,10,&12″ sizes available. The 2″ difference between 10 & 12 really doesn’t make sense as far as a selection standpoint. If I’m looking to buy a larger miter saw than 7.25, I would more than likely pass on the 10 & get the 12 “. There’s not a huge price break between the two. If you ask me they should do away with the 12″ and come correct with a 16″ slider miter. I still have yet to see a 12″ that can cut a 6×6 or LVL without having to flip it. Every deck builder around would save up to get a 16”. And also that way the size difference as well as the price difference between 10 & 16 would be more economical. They got 16″ circ saws so you know that they can make a slider miter. Although I doubt a 60v battery would be sufficient enough power it.
Bremon
A 16″ blade has 78% more surface area/weight than a 12″, which is already 44% bigger than a 10″. A motor spinning that blade with RPM and torque to not slow down production or the motor will be a new category: 240v Max. 4 FlexVolt batteries lol.
nd
i think you wrote 8-1/2″ saw
10.5″ saw has a cut capacity of 10.63″ wide and 2.44″ deep at 90°.
Stuart
That is correct – thank you!!
Peter Asher
I will be moving to Greece and will need to replace my !2″ sliding miter saw, 12″ thickness planer,12″ band saw and 6″ jointer. Will they be 240 volts or will I need a transformer?, and, what brands?
Stuart
Sorry, I know nothing about using these types of corded tools in another country.