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Dewalt Officially Announces New XTREME Subcompact Series of Cordless Power Tools

Jun 10, 2019 Stuart 80 Comments

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Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact Brushless Cordless Screwdriver

Dewalt has officially announced their new XTREME Subcompact Series of cordless power tools, which is described as a line of five compact and performance-packed brushless 12V Max tools.

Dewalt says that the new line offers powerful, ergonomic solutions for a variety of applications include electrical, drywall, remodeling, automotive, metalworking, woodworking, and masonry applications.

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The new Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact cordless power tool line will launch with the following tools:

  • Dewalt DCD701 Brushless Drill/Driver
  • Dewalt DCD706 Brushless Hammer Drill
  • Dewalt DCF801 Brushless Impact Driver
  • Dewalt DCF601 Brushless Screwdriver
  • Dewalt DCF902 Brushless 3/8″ Impact Wrench

There will also be a new 3.0Ah battery, DCB124, which does not seem to make an appearance in the press release product imagery. The battery will be priced at $59 for one, or $99 for two.

Dewalt DCD701 Brushless Drill/Driver

Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact Brushless Cordless Drill DCD701

Dewalt says that their new Xtreme Subcompact drill is optimized for use in small pilot holes and can handle up to a 1/2″ spade bit.

  • 250 UWO max power
  • 0-425/0-1500 RPM
  • 5.97″ length
  • Weighs 1.91 without battery
  • 2 speed settings

Price: $99 for the bare tool (DCD701B), $139 for the 2.0Ah battery kit (DCD701F2)

Read Also: Dewalt Cordless Power Tools, UWO, and Torque – Here’s What it all Really Means

Dewalt DCD706 Brushless Hammer Drill

Dewalt DCD706 Xtreme Subcompact Hammer Drill

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The Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact hammer drill will be similar to the drill/driver, but with a percussion mechanism for drilling into masonry materials.

  • 250 UWO max power
  • 6.6″ length
  • Weighs 2.04 lbs without battery
  • 25,500 BPM

Price: $109 for the bare tool (DCD706B), $139 for the 2.0Ah battery kit (DCD706F2)

Dewalt DCF801 Brushless Impact Driver

Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact Brushless Cordless Impact Driver DCF801

  • 1450 in-lbs max torque
  • 0-950/0-1950/0-2850 RPM
  • 5.05″ length
  • Weighs 1.75 lbs without battery
  • 3 speed and torque selection modes
  • 3 LED lights

Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact Brushless Cordless Impact Driver DCF801 Speed Modes

The new Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact DCF801 impact driver features 3 modes: low speed, high speed, and a Precision Drive mode which can delay the impact mechanism activation by one second. The idea is that this will protect the fastener and material surface during applications that require higher precision.

Price: $99 for the bare tool (DCF801B), $139 for the 2.0Ah kit (DCF801F2)

There will also be a brushless drill and impact driver combo kit, DCK211F2, priced at $199.

Dewalt DCF601 Brushless Screwdriver

Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact Brushless Cordless Screwdriver

The new Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact screwdriver functions similarly to the drill, but features a 1/4″ hex chuck instead of a drill chuck, and also has a slightly lower power rating.

  • 1/4″ hex chuck
  • 200 UWO max power
  • 0-1100 RPM
  • 4.81″ length
  • Weighs 1.5 lbs without battery
  • 3 LED lights
  • 15-setting clutch

Dewalt says that the brushless screwdriver is best used with hard-to-reach fasteners that need the control of its 15-setting clutch. This doesn’t really make sense to me. Could they be referring to the inline screwdriver references in Dewalt and Stanley Black & Decker investor materials?

Price: $99 for the bare tool (DCF601B), $119 for the 2.0Ah kit (DCF601F2)

Dewalt DCF902 Brushless 3/8″ Impact Wrench

Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact Brushless Cordless Impact Wrench DCF902

The new Xtreme Subcompact impact wrench features a hog ring-style anvil and is designed for hard-to-reach nuts and bolts.

It has 3 modes, like the impact driver, with the third mode being a Precision Wrench setting that helps to prevent fastener overtightening and run-off.

  • 3/8″ anvil with hog ring
  • 1500 in-lbs max torque
  • 2400 in-lbs max breakaway torque
  • 5.11″ length
  • Weighs 1.73 lbs without battery
  • 3 LED lights

Price: $109 for the bare tool (DCF902B), $149 for the 2.0Ah kit (DCF902F2)

Discussion

Dewalt will be launching their 12V Max Xtreme Subcompact cordless power tool line with 5 drilling, driving, and fastening tools, and also a new 3.0Ah battery, but we know that more tools are coming.

Dewalt 12V Max Xtreme Sub-Compact Series Tools

In a recent investor presentation, Dewalt showed off a couple of new 12V Max Xtreme Subcompact power tools that were not included in the launch press materials, notably an inline screwdriver and brushless oscillating multi-tool.

So, unless that was all concept art, we’re bound to see more tools soon.

Also, the model number for the brushless impact wrench is DCF902. Perhaps we’ll see a 1/4″ impact debut as model DCF901.

Dewalt has waited a long time to come out with 12V Max brushless cordless power tools. These tools are the first additions to Dewalt’s 12V Max cordless tool lineup in a long time.

Dewalt Xtreme SubCompact Cordless Drill vs Dewalt Atomic Drill

Someone asked me if the Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact 12V Max brushless drill was identical to the Dewalt Atomic 20V Max brushless drill. While there are strong similarities, there are also distinct differences. We don’t know if the two drills share similar electronic or mechanical components.

Overall, I am cautiously optimistic about Dewalt’s new Xtreme Subcompact cordless power tool line. That they announced the lineup in investor materials has me hopeful that they’re committed to expanding the 12V Max cordless power tool system. There are a lot of new tools we might see in this new product family, IF Dewalt chooses to grow in this space.

Dewalt says that the new Xtreme Subcompact cordless power tools will be sold at Lowes and independent channels. There’s no word as to whether Lowes will have the tools for an exclusive period, or for how long that period might be.

If you recall, Home Depot described the new Dewalt Atomic series as their exclusive. The Atomic tools were only available at Home Depot for a short time, and can now be found at some online retailers as well. At the moment, Lowes does not have any listings for Dewalt Atomic-series cordless power tools. So, it is possible that the Xtreme Subcompact tools will be available at Lowes but not Home Depot.

The new Dewalt Xtreme Subcompact cordless power tools will be available starting this summer.

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80 Comments

  1. jason gloekler

    Jun 10, 2019

    Having all of the 12v lineup, wonder if any real reason to get the brushless versions when they come out?

    Think theyll be holiday specials on these?

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    • Stuart

      Jun 10, 2019

      A lot has changed in the 9 years since the 12V Max tools first launched. The new tools are smaller and more powerful, and probably more battery-efficient too. If you’re happy with your 12V Max tools, there’s no reason to upgrade yet. If in your shoes, I’d wait to see what came later. The investor presentation showed off new tools that don’t currently exist in the Dewalt 12V lineup.

      Maybe there will be holiday specials.

      Dewalt will likely report any sales or growth of the new Xtreme Subcompact tools in future investor presentations, and so I’d say it’s more likely than not that we could see aggressive pricing at Lowes in November.

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      • Jason

        Jun 10, 2019

        Thank you for the reply

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    • Matt

      Jun 11, 2019

      The 3 speed impact with 1450 in lbs is worth the upgrade alone…. Plus the availability of a hammer drill

      Reply
  2. Gary

    Jun 10, 2019

    “So, it is possible that the Xtreme Subcompact tools will be available at Lowes but not Home Depot”

    Flexvolt and Atomic are both exclusive to Home Depot … I’d bet money that the new 12-volt line will likewise be exclusive to Home Depot.

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    • Stuart

      Jun 10, 2019

      Press materials explicitly say they will be available at Lowes. What I’m wondering is if this implies they will be exclusive to Lowes, mirroring the seeming retail exclusivity of Dewalt Atomic tools at Home Depot.

      Reply
    • Jared

      Jun 10, 2019

      “Dewalt says that the new Xtreme Subcompact cordless power tools will be sold at Lowes and independent channels. “

      Reply
      • Jared

        Jun 10, 2019

        Oops. Stuart beat me to it.

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    • Fm2176

      Jun 11, 2019

      Not only this, but Home Depot stopped carrying the 12v Max tools a while ago, if I’m not mistaken. Lowe’s clearanced them out for a brief period (to rotate stock?) but still sells them. Each company has to attract customers…did Lowe’s partner with DeWalt to be the exclusive big box Xtreme seller to counter HD getting Flexvolt and Atomic? Regardless, Lowe’s comes out the loser in attracting contractors, IMHO.

      BTW, I have most of the older 12v Max tools as well. They work fine for smaller jobs, but lack power for anything significant.

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  3. Jared

    Jun 10, 2019

    I’m interested to see how this goes. In terms of capability, 12v class tools could probably fill most people’s power tool need these days – but that requires a company to have an extensive lineup. Milwaukee’s got that space pretty much to themselves in my opinion. Bosch offers compelling problem-solvers, but not a big enough portfolio to really pique my interest. Dewalt has never had enough to offer to make it tempting (although I do have the old 12v screwdriver – but that was almost an accident).

    Bottom line is that if I were going to get into another battery line, there needs to be enough tools to make it worthwhile. So far Dewalt doesn’t have them. These new tools are a step in the right direction.

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    • David Lockwood

      Jun 10, 2019

      Exactly my thoughts. I bought into the Porter Cable 20v system and now DeWalt and Milwaukee have everything on their platforms. I won’t make that mistake again.

      Reply
  4. Mnbska

    Jun 10, 2019

    This has to have been said before: subcompact is a form factor. I don’t think you can call a fool subcompact if the battery ISN’T in the handle.

    Reply
    • Big Richard

      Jun 10, 2019

      I’m not familiar with this law. Perhaps it only applies to certain municipalities. In my area a tool manufacturer can market a tool as subcompact if it is smaller than their compact offering, hence the “subcompact” moniker.

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      • Nathan

        Jun 10, 2019

        sort of like car sales.

        now milwaukee and bosch have people thinking it can only be compact or subcompact if the battery is in the over fat handle like their product.

        In many cases the battery location of the tool has little to do with how well the tool fits into jobs. I’ve never been at a loss to utilize my drill or driver based on the location of the slide on battery pack. I guess it could happen

        motor can and gear box length – body diameter are the main points.

        Now all that said – shame they didn’t take a opportunity to have the drill and screw driver setup so the drill chuck came off the screw driver etc. (like a flex click system). but I do often appreciate having 2 seperate tools also and I suspect most pros prefer this.

        The impact wrench I am sort of lost for – I think in that case I would still work towards a 18V/20V tool. Which they also make and it’s only a bit bigger.

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        • alex

          Jun 10, 2019

          And unless you are only a 2 or 3 AH battery, the battery won’t fit in the handle anyway.

          BTW, I’m pretty sure the screwdriver in the investor picture that look like their existing 8V driver will be their flex system. The handle can be rotated to a pistol grip when you need it. If you can switch the head, that would make a terrific installation drill.

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        • Robert W

          Jun 10, 2019

          I think Bosch answers the “battery in the handle” question best by calling their 12v in handle driver the “Pocket Driver”. The battery in the handle allows you to temporarily put the tool in your jacket or pants pocket, giving you both hands free without wearing a tool belt or clipping it on your belt. It’s also good for a small toolbox.

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          • Matt

            Jun 11, 2019

            I was always under the impression that the pocket driver was called such for it’s usability in pocket hole driving/fastening applications ….not based on where one could store it momentarily

          • Stuart

            Jun 11, 2019

            I always thought it was the “pocket size” that gave the Bosch PS20 its name. Remember, it debuted more than 10 years ago, when cordless drills were still very large and bulky. Although low powered, the PS20 was compact and light, perfect for lighter duty driving tasks where you didn’t want to use a much larger and heavier tool.

    • Corey Moore

      Jun 10, 2019

      What about Makitas subcompacts? Their drill driver with slide pack was considerably smaller than fuel m12 gen one with the fat handle stem packs. Milwaukee’s 12v’s usually tend to be on the larger side of offerings in that voltage.

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      • Ben

        Jun 16, 2019

        I love my Makita 12volt CXT brushless tools. Small, light but powerful. Sure, for big tasks I go for the larger 18volt versions, but 90% of the time the 12v brushless are more than up to the task.
        My hands aren’t large, so the Milwaukee and Bosch 12v tools with the battery in the handle make the grip too large to be comfortable for me. The CXT’s are perfect in this regard.
        I was tempted to get the 18v sub-compact line in order to have battery compatibility, but in the end it seemed like they weren’t beefy enough when I needed the power, yet larger and heavier most of the time when I didn’t.

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    • Matt

      Jun 11, 2019

      This is brand new. Like brand new…. My guess would be that they will directly compete with m12 BUT I believe releasing 5 drivers and drills as your introduction to the platform is a mistake on dewalts part.

      Yes, new blood will crave fastening tools, even older, more established folk get wooed by high speed impacts with modes and compact power drills…

      But the seasoned tradesman has fastening tools and likely an abundance of them.

      Part of this new release should be jig and recip saws or multi tools and a radio. More lighting options, usb chargers or a stapler. Bring something else to the table. A pin nailer, sander or grinder. Add a drywall screwgun if fastening is the route youre going.

      At least show us some depth that will be available down the road

      Other than that, look at the cost of entry into this line. It’s inexpensive. Look at the specs… These are professional grade tools.

      This will give me a reason to go to lowes

      Reply
  5. Altan

    Jun 10, 2019

    Hi Stuart, I read these 3Ah 12V batteries come with two years warranty not like the 2Ah 12V batteries that come with one year warranty, Is it the same issue with 3Ah 20V compact batteries also? or even with 6Ah and 8Ah batteries also?
    Thanks

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  6. Brian A

    Jun 10, 2019

    Wait so are the Atomic and Xtreme tools identical, just each line is exclusive to HD & Lowes?

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    • Stuart

      Jun 10, 2019

      Not quite.

      Atomic: 20V Max
      Xtreme Subcompact: 12V Max

      The drills look similar, but different. The 12V Max impacts have 3 speed modes, the Atomic has 1.

      Xtreme Subcompact kits are bundled with 2.0Ah batteries, Atomic are bundled with 1.3Ah.

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      • Brian A

        Jun 10, 2019

        Oh thought there was Atomic 12v too. Tough to keep up with all the crazy naming conventions outside of the red brand.

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        • Stuart

          Jun 10, 2019

          There might be! But I haven’t seen or heard about them yet.

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          • Altan

            Jun 10, 2019

            Can DeWALT put their time to make the tools that they don’t have but others (Milwaukee and Makita) have, not making Atomic / compact / brushless version of the tools they already have?! Once it is done, they can do whatever they want, but I don’t think it is the time for playing game now…. DeWALT looks like a stubborn kid to me that just wants to do the same thing over an over and that is making just drills! And nobody tells DeWALT that there is a world out there, world is not just drills, and drills are not the only tools you can make!

            I need a 12V Soldering Iron and a Tile Saw and I am pissed off waiting for ages, I already waited ages for the planer, sander and the router.

  7. David Lockwood

    Jun 10, 2019

    So, I imagine the drill/driver kit for $199 includes a battery and charger?

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    • Stuart

      Jun 10, 2019

      I’d guess (2) batteries, a charger, and carrying bag.

      Reply
  8. Carl J

    Jun 10, 2019

    A solution in search of a problem.

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    • Corey Moore

      Jun 10, 2019

      Pretty sure 12v tools are proven problem solver for lots of people…

      Reply
      • Carl J

        Jun 10, 2019

        Please keep us apprised after you buy and use this entire line up and how much better these are compared to the last version of Dewalts 12v tools.

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        • Corey Moore

          Jun 10, 2019

          Unsure what you’re implying, though I suspect you’re insinuating I’m a fanboy that picks up dewalt tools flippantly. However, I don’t own any dewalt 12v tools and at the absolute most-if they review well and likewise feel comfortable, then I would maybe find cause to pick up 3 of these tools, tops. And if I needed to clarify my original comment-just because you don’t have a need for these long over-due updates to a very popular class of tools, hardly brings any truth to the notion that there’s no point to dewalt filling a massive gap in their competitive 12v/subcompact offerings.

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          • Tristan

            Jun 11, 2019

            … Corey won this one. Perfect tone, good points, etc. The ball is now in Carl’s court. Will Master J deliver?

          • Fm2176

            Jun 11, 2019

            My DirecTV installer used a 12v Max drill amd impact kit to install my dish back in 2014. This was a couple of years before I became a complete power tool addict (still working with the PC 18v stuff at the time), but he swore by it.

            I’ve spent far too much money on DW 8v, 12v, 20v, 60v, and 120v; M12 and M18; and Ridgid and Ryobi 18v to bother taking sides in a brand/voltage battle, but each of my many tools works when I need it. If 12v Max is lacking, the DCD996 or M18 Fuel will get it.

            As a former professional mechanic and construction worker, any of my current drills would be preferable to what we made do with 25 years ago.

  9. Chris

    Jun 10, 2019

    Is that a typo?
    How is the drill only able to handle “up to a 1/2″ spade bit”?
    If that is the case, Milwaukee’s m12 stuff will eat this for lunch.

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    • Nathan

      Jun 10, 2019

      why in something marketed as compact do you need to use more than a 1/2 in spade bit?

      When I run a 1 inch spade bit I find I have to use 2 hands on the drill as it can and will catch and want to spin. So I might as well have more heft in the tool too.

      Not quite the same animal in my book.

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      • Chris

        Jun 10, 2019

        As an electrician, I can think of several reasons why I need more than a 1/2″ spade bit. I would typically run a 5/8″ or 3/4″ bit for romex runs in a house, 1/2″ is too tight and would force me to drill multiple small holes (increasing wear and tear, time, and inconvenience).
        Milwaukee can run a hole saw for can lights. If dewalt can’t keep up, why would anyone buy it (and that doesn’t factor in the sheer number of tools available in milwaukee’s lineup versus dewalts).

        Something marketed as “compact” shouldn’t stop them from making a powerful tool.

        From a marketing perspective, why would you not want to advertise your features to their fullest extent (it hasn’t stopped dewalt before “cough, 20V, cough, cough”).

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    • Corey Moore

      Jun 10, 2019

      If the European torque info mentioned in the other post’s comments are correct, these new 12v’s are decently above Milwaukee’s current stuff. 1/2″ spade does sound small, but I could see it being a low-ball for warranty purposes, or even accurate for intended duty cycle on a 12v tool to achieve better tool life. I find it odd that anyone’s still using spade bits as a marker for drills, though. I haven’t seen anyone use a spade outside of their impact in quite some time.

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      • Altan

        Jun 10, 2019

        Spade/flat bits are not good, not for professionals, it is time to give up making these unprofessional bits. the new ones are not sharp and well made, and these bits are not efficient, it is time to go for something different.

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        • fred

          Jun 10, 2019

          @ Altan

          The appeal is that they are cheap to make and buy. They don’t often produce clean holes – but for rough work some folks don’t worry much. If you hit an embedded nail – you don’t cry over their loss. With the Bosch variants having a feed screw – they pull themselves into the work – possibly speeding tasks up. They come in stubby length – sometimes handy with a RA drill for tight spots. They also come in long lengths – or can be used with relatively inexpensive extenders for deep-reach applications. Overall – folks use them probably not because they are great or even good boring tools – but because they are readily available and cheap.

          My old plumbing and pipefitting business eschewed their use in favor of selfeed bits and various auger bits. In my home woodworking I much prefer using (depending on the application) auger bits, brad point bits, forstner bits, powerbore bits (old Stanley or newer Rockler) or even spoon bits. The only use I’ve put spade bits to is for drilling tapered candle holder holes – with spade bits re-ground to bore a tapered hole

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          • Altan

            Jun 10, 2019

            I know, I have some old Irwin USA made spade bits and they are amazing and very sharp, the new ones are not that sharp and really cheap made, I think spade bits are for hobbyists just. Some brands do make BIM Spade or Auger bits, I don’t get involved in projects that have joists for ages now, that is why I don’t damage any bit as you said. I don’t enjoy to work in a place that I see plasterboard or joists or related things, not for me. I get attracted by concrete buildings just, in UK you see both but in US it seems you don’t have too many concrete houses. I remember when I was a child and watching Tom and Jerry and was wondering how that mouse can have a little house behind the wall as in my country we did not have plasterboard at all which probably by now it has been introduced.
            The thing is until you hit your drill bit on a nail you can save a lot of time by using an auger bit and time is money.

            I like KWB Japanese made Auger bits, the tips are different, they are something between Auger and Brad point drill bits for me.

            https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KWB-4-Piece-Energy-Saving-Professional-Auger-Wood-Drill-Bit-Set-12-16-20-24-mm-/273701909493?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10

            Or FAMAG brad point drill bits or Alpen HSS Cobalt brad point drill bits.

          • fred

            Jun 10, 2019

            Irwin Speedbor also make some decent 1/4hex shank auger bits – but we liked bits from Wood Owl (Star-M Corp.) made in Japan:

            https://www.amazon.com/OverDrive-Boring-Containing-Following-00706/dp/B00CBKVLVY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=B00CBKVLVY&qid=1560217482&s=gateway&sr=8-1

          • Altan

            Jun 11, 2019

            I know Star-M bits, they are amazing, but I can clearly say that Wood Owl and KWB Auger bits are made in the same factory! Wood Owl branded for US and KWB branded for EU. Thanks for the link, I like to know these things because if a product is branded differently it is most probably cheaper in the US than it would be in the UK.

      • Kizzle

        Jun 10, 2019

        Which comment are you referring to?

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    • Stuart

      Jun 10, 2019

      Seeing as how the Skil 12V brushless drill I reviewed can handle well above a 1/2″ spade bit, I assume (and hope) that Dewalt’s claims are extremely modest. https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/skil-pwrcore-12-brushless-drill-review/%3C/a%3E%3C/p%3E

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      • Corey Moore

        Jun 10, 2019

        Looks like the spade being used in the picture of the drill/driver is larger than 1/2″, to me.

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        • Chris

          Jun 10, 2019

          I agree.
          Going by the fact that the shank is 1/4″ hex, it seems that the spade is ~3x the size, putting the spade at ~3/4″.

          Reply
      • Nathan

        Jun 10, 2019

        well another issue I think dewalt has is they market only to construction tradeline and not enough to other thoughts.

        LIke I bet this would easily run a hole saw too – for can lights (what is that 5-1/4 something) in drywall. All day every day – but it would have trouble running a 3 inch holesaw in 3/4 ply.

        again personally I’m not nearly as interested in the drill as I am the screw driver. Not even the impact. but I don’t see these as much smaller than a 20V tool on a compact battery.

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      • Altan

        Jun 10, 2019

        I have seen in DeWALT’s German/Scandinavian 2019 catalogues that DeWALT has come up with new 1/4″ hex shank Auger bits. that is something to replace spade bits.

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        • Stuart

          Jun 10, 2019

          Do they look like these? https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/irwin-speedbor-max-drill-bits/%3C/a%3E%3C/p%3E

          (SBD now owns Irwin.)

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          • Altan

            Jun 10, 2019

            https://www.dewalt.se/interactive/
            Page 44 of power tool accessories catalogue.

          • Altan

            Jun 10, 2019

            You are right, they look similar

            https://www.toolstoreuk.co.uk/dewalt-dt90239-13mm-x-152mm-tri-flute-spade-bit/p8252

          • Corey Moore

            Jun 10, 2019

            Love these while they last, but I’ve had unfortunate luck with the shanks bending repeatedly. Think there’s still a few rolling around in some of my older box drawers, but going back to industrial I really haven’t needed a speedbore in a long time.

    • The What?

      Jun 10, 2019

      If the 12v xtreme tools and the 20v atomic tools are similar in torque and power specs then there’s something really wrong with that picture. The 20v atomic tools should be more powerful than the 12v xtreme tools. I’m talking night and day. There shouldn’t be any similarities between the two voltages other than the brand that made them. If they would’ve focused on making better 20v xr tools instead of that atomic dung, then they could’ve done the xtreme stuff without folks asking if they’re 20v and 12v tools are similar. Again, 20v tools should be bigger and stronger than 12v tools. The 20v xr line is their bread and butter and they need to get back on it and come out with some new shit that is way past due.

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      • Kizzle

        Jun 10, 2019

        I’m guessing Lowe’s got exclusivity for the 12v line so Home Depot demanded something small for their customers. The Atomic was the answer. DeWalt didn’t want to cannibalize their 20XR sales so they crippled the Atomic and called it a day. A compact system that isn’t the 12v Lowe’s got and wouldn’t overlap their other product line.

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        • Stuart

          Jun 10, 2019

          I thought Dewalt Atomic came from Dewalt maxing out Lowes shelves with Craftsman, Irwin, Lenox, and Dewalt, and wanting to get more shelf space at Home Depot.

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          • Kizzle

            Jun 10, 2019

            Nope. It’s as I said. Don’t you recognize my name? I am the Kizzle that is the CEO of SB&D. I arranged the licensing deal for the Atomic line.

            j/k, but seriously. I’m just spitballing here, so I have no idea what the motive is. I know one thing though, the motive is generally to appease shareholders. Most CEOs are making business decisions, not end user tool decisions.

      • Stuart

        Jun 10, 2019

        Atomic: 340 UWO max power, 1650 RPM max

        Xtreme Subcompact: 250 UWO max power1500 RPM max

        Reply
      • NZ Tom

        Jun 11, 2019

        I think you are being a bit narrow minded here. Different tools for different users and applications. DeWalt have already brought out a lot of tools in 20V: there is a good spread of low to high power drills etc: the Atomic line is just the latest improvement in this spread.
        The 12V stuff is for applications where compact size is important for controllability reasons. I use the 12V screwdriver and impact all day long, repairing small appliances (including DeWalt and many other tools). I’ll upgrade these tools to brushless as they wear out.
        I also have a DCD996 & an M18 Hole Hawg for the building work I do in the weekends, and the occasional times I assist in rough-ins at work. Horses for courses.

        Reply
  10. Kizzle

    Jun 10, 2019

    Would like a size comparison of the Atomic, 12v Max, and 20v. Seems like the Atomic is superfluous now with a 12v compact system. Home Depot will probably dig in and demand more Atomic tools now that Lowe’s has the exclusivity of the 12v line.

    Reply
  11. SurvivalSpec

    Jun 10, 2019

    They’ll scrap the failed Atomic tools in favor of expanding the 12v line. This is good on DEWALT for several reasons, and you know they are listening to the consumers as well as paying close attention to sales.

    Reply
    • Chris

      Jun 10, 2019

      Has the Atomic series failed (source)?
      They just came out…

      Reply
    • Kizzle

      Jun 10, 2019

      Not so sure. 12v will be Lowe’s exclusive and the Atomic was a HD exclusive. I agree that the Atomic are worthless now, but HD will want it to set themselves apart. Even comparing the 12v Impact and Atomic Impact; the 12v has speed adjustments when the Atomic doesn’t.

      Reply
    • Stuart

      Jun 10, 2019

      The Atomic drill and impact are basic designs at entry price points. These are more premium-featured. They’re aimed at different users.

      Additionally, they’re parallel strategies. 12V Max Xtreme Subcompact isn’t replacing 20V Max Atomic just because its announcement came later.

      Reply
  12. Mike (the other one)

    Jun 10, 2019

    I am certainly not digging DeWalt having separate lines of tools for different retailers.

    I can see having entry level and more premium lines, but isn’t that what Porter Cable is for?

    Reply
    • Aaron

      Jun 10, 2019

      I don’t think anyone knows what Porter Cable is for anymore.

      Reply
      • John

        Jun 17, 2019

        Craftsman will soon have the same fate with the new parent-company’s track record

        Reply
      • John

        Jun 17, 2019

        Btw, still wiping milk off my screen after reading your comment ?

        Reply
  13. Perry

    Jun 11, 2019

    Dewalt seems to be scattered with their marketing strategies anymore. For the price and power, I’ll probably go with the skil 12v lineup because they have a slide pack and a 5-3/8″ circular saw. I’ve used the M12 tools on cabinet installs and dont like the grip for extended periods, but if I’m investing in a 12v system a saw that can cut 1″ material at 45 degrees is necessary for me

    Reply
  14. Rob

    Jun 12, 2019

    Any dates?

    Reply
    • Stuart

      Jun 12, 2019

      Summer 2019.

      Reply
  15. Chris Fyfe

    Jun 13, 2019

    DeWalt is a tad bit late for the 12 Volt party , they will have a hard time catching up with Team Red !

    Reply
    • Altan

      Jun 13, 2019

      When it comes to 60V tools DeWALT is amazing, when it comes to 20V tools DeWALT is slow and when it comes to 12V tools DeWALT is just out of the world…
      I think DeWALT should also make 40V Flexvolt batteries and tools which the batteries would be compatible with 20V tools.

      Reply
  16. Moze

    Jun 14, 2019

    Is the hammer drill 1/2″…..?

    Reply
  17. John

    Jun 17, 2019

    They’re still pushing the “UWO” thing?? Sketchy-McSketchville. Count me out.

    Reply
  18. Chuck

    Feb 16, 2020

    So..do i go Makita 18v subcompact or Dewalt 12v?
    The Dewalt 12v impact has more torque than Makita

    Reply
    • Chuck

      Feb 16, 2020

      The confusion i have is, the 12v Dewalt impact is stronger than Makita 18v subcompact, but will the 12v battery last like an 18v?

      Reply
      • Chuck

        Feb 16, 2020

        BTW, I’m not a carpenter, I am a homeowner and usually do medium to small jobs. I run mostly 2″- 3″ screws building tables and such or putting together concrete forms. I just got the Makita 18v subcompact at $20 more than the Dewalt 12v Extreme. I like both i just don’t like the position of the light on the Makita drill driver, casts a bad shadow on work area

        Reply
    • Stuart

      Feb 17, 2020

      If power is similar, an 18V battery will almost always deliver greater runtime than a 12V Max battery, given that it has 67% more Li-ion cells (3 for 12V Max vs. 5 for 18V).

      Reply

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