Milwaukee Pipeline 2023 is next week – Tuesday, August 8th, 2023. Pipeline – formerly NPS (New Product Symposium) – is Milwaukee’s annual media event where they showcase their latest tools and innovations.
What are your predictions as to what will be announced or revealed?
Also – what questions do you want me to ask?
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Pipeline is an opportunity to ask questions direct to Milwaukee Tool product managers, VPs, design and development engineers, and those in charge. Even Steven Richman – Milwaukee Group President for the last 16+ years – is available to answer questions.
Here is what I think we will see next week, in addition to recently-announced tools.
M18 Pouch Cell Lithium-ion Batteries
Even if the launch might not be imminent, I think there’s a good chance of new M18 stacked pouch-style batteries.
It’s about time.
When touring Milwaukee’s battery lab last year, I saw pouch cells under test. There weren’t many, but enough to hint at what Milwaukee was working on. Since last year’s media event was their first since 2019, it’s unclear how long they’ve been working on things.
If a new M18 battery will be announced, what types of new tools might be announced alongside it?
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Packout… Something?
The modular tool storage system market has been heating up, with a couple of recent launches and more on the way.
Milwaukee Packout has been steadily expanded upon over the past few years. They expanded in a new direction in recent years, with the workshop storage system.
But, I think we’re due for an enhancement of some kind – maybe accessories that latch or clamp onto the metal rail corner protectors found on full-size Packout tool boxes.
Updated… Miter Saw?
I’m just guessing a bit now, but it’s an educated guess.
Milwaukee just announced a new M18 Fuel 16 gauge straight finish nailer, and a larger cordless router. There could be more that they’ve been working on with a residential construction and remodeling focus.
Your Predictions and Questions?
What do you think is coming? What do you want to see announced next week?
What kinds of questions should I try to ask? I’m hoping there will be plenty of time for candid conversations.
Collin
Updated impact wrenches
Adam
There has been an updated High Torque that has been leaked, which also announced new pouch style batteries.
Otherwise all the other impacts have been updated too recently to see another update.
Adrian
Link to the leak?
Ezzy
Do you expect to see any M12 expansions? I’m about to buy my first Milwaukee tools with an M12 Fuel impact/drill combo. Or possibly a Surge. I’m a handyman and tbh 99% of the time I have no need for anything super powerful. I’d prefer the lightest and smallest impact I can find for day to day use. On the occasion that I need more power I’d pull out an 18v.
Stuart
I’d expect to see a replacement M18 Fuel Surge before the M12, as it’s older. Are the Gen 1 models from either platform lacking in any way?
HomerBucket
I cannot praise the M12 Surge enough, especially paired with the CP 2.5 battery. It’s my daily driver that I keep handy and leave heavier stuff in the tool cart. I put a lot of fasteners into wood and steel and never have any issues. Also works great on bolts!
Shane
Same. It was hard for me to justify the surge. I already had the impact. It is well worth the price of admission. Best decision i ever made. In fact, my first surge grew legs and ran away from me. I re-bought it because I couldn’t do without it.
AC
only wish it could be run slower for small stuff. that’s one thing that Bosch gets right. you can modulate trigger down to seeming .000001 RPM
Adrian
Variable speed trigger and mode 1 working great for me w/ small screws in delicate material 🤷🏻♂️
Doresoom
It would be nice to get the triple light ring on the Surge models.
Paul Shibata
Don’t wait and get the Surge. Your ears will thank you and the performance is excpetional. As others have already mentioned it is fantastic. It would be even more popular had there been a way to equalize the specifications. Marketers supremely understand that prospective buyers are forcefully swayed by big bold ratings. Conventional torque measurements fail to capture the real world performance of surge and regretably in the absence of someone explaining the difference people will pick the one with “more better bigger” numbers.
PETE
I bought a surge. and i have other impacts m12 & m18 along with other brands as well…. i only want to use my m12 & 18 surge.
Mikey C.
Surge is so good, you will not regret buying it. I run a sign fabrication shop and we have a whole wall of various drills / impacts, and the Surges are always in-use.
Rx9
One more vote for the Surge. I’ve got the 18v model, and it has been my go-to for most driving tasks. No kickback like a drill would have, and no racket like a traditional impact driver would make. Much more power than the max torque numbers would have you believe. Even if you, the reader of this comment, aren’t a Milwaukee fan, I highly recommend a hydraulic impact from whatever brand/system you are bought into.
Rx9
A hydraulic impact driver was something I purchased on a whim, impressed with the tech, and now I can’t imagine life without it. Another new class of tool I grabbed that has surpassed expectations is my metal cutting circular saw. It cuts faster, cooler, safer and straighter than my angle grinder.
If you currently cut metal with a grinder this class of tool will change your life.
Adam
* Backpack blower (2xm18, but i’d take 4x)
* M18 Fuel Planer
* M18 Fuel Orbital Sander
* M12 Fuel Jigsaw
* M12 fuel screwdriver update would be great
* Gen2 Surges
Would like to see a snow blower, but would need 4 m18 batteries if not MX. And after seeing the premium on the mower, likely settle for options.
fred
I have no predictions – but would like to see them launch some of the tools that are in the TTI- Ryobi line – but updated in red M18 or M12. Things like:
M18 and M12 Glue Guns
M18 EIFS Hot knife
M18 Flex shaft rotary tool able to use Foredom handpieces
To compete with Bosch – how about a:
M12 router
M12 Planer
M18 Concrete T-Nailer
To compete with Metabo-HPT
M`18 – Duplex-nail gun
M18 Metal Connector Nailer
To compete with Metabo:
M18 burnishing machine
M18 pipe sander
M18 metal plate beveler
Chris
Milwaukee makes a m12 planer
Shane
I saw one in store today!
fred
Thanks I either missed that or was having a senior moment.
TonyT
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-12V-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-2-in-Planer-Tool-Only-2524-20/323591855
For the price, I’ll stick with my Ryobi planer (~$35 from DTO)
Doresoom
Milwaukee has patents out for the M12 router and M18 duplex nailer!
mike
A new M12 Circular saw, jigsaw, and router would complete my dream collection nicely.
Doresoom
There’s a Milwaukee patent filed for an M12 FUEL jigsaw, and they’ve got a different patent for adding a redlithium USB screwdriver.
Albert
I’m going to say lots of electrician’s tools, like what Klein makes.
I would love to see an M18 floor jack, ideally with a worm gear or lead screw and not hydraulic.
I hope they update their M18 compact blower and heat gun.
Steve
Floor jack would be sweet…
Chip
As an owner of 30 m12 tools.
Would like to see an updated surge,a more powerful drill,pouch/pod higher ahr batteries, updated clutched fuel driver, release the more powerful European instalation driver, 21 g pin nailer.
In 18v.
Powered cooler,better sanders,larger 10 1/4 circular saw track compatible, higher torque right angle impact like IR has,large packout compatible vacuum as a base unit,larger fan.
For packout …..larger then the cabinet sized single drawer for bulky items.
Updated handtruck,foldout tables.
Adam
I forgot to add a better fan on my list. Though I have my doubts after they decided to go make a smaller m12, rather than releasing a larger fuel model, ideally with oscillation if I’m going to pay a pretty penny (or several) for it
Steve
Packout cabinets for sure…
Collin
Hopefully there’s a Packout kit filled with 3/8″ impact hex and torx bits.
Chris
I’d love to see Milwaukee come out with updated versions of it’s job site tri-pod lighting and it’s Packout Radio! The radio doesn’t sound loud enough for its size and weight, hopefully some improved speakers are on the horizon.
Munklepunk
Hopefully a packout box that have pull out organizers so we can remove them without unstacking.
But as for actual tools, M12 jigsaw. That thing has been bad forever.
Luke
Like this? https://www.homedepot.com/p/packout-drawer/315059770
Doresoom
They’ve filed an M12 FUEL jigsaw patent!
Scott
Are they expanding their U.S. made product line? If so, what will the be producing
Tom
Hopefully they make a m12 pex -ss-cinch ring tool, roybi is one of the only ones that has.
Harrison
The clamp/cinch style PEX rings are a DIY/temporary solution- I could be wrong, but it’s unlikely Milwaukee would benefit selling an expensive pro-grade tool to install them. Plumbers are going to use crimp rings, or the vastly superior PEX-A with expansion fittings, all of which Milwaukee has covered, including press copper.
Jay
I know it is unlikely and not an easy topic to discuss with the folks at Milwaukee, but at this point I would really like to turn their attention to quality and QC.
I think this is much more important than new releases, albeit not as exciting.
I, and many others have watched (and felt with our own hands) the quality of Milwaukee tools dropping to a place where it should not be. Be this from cost savings or whatnot, that is not the point.
From personal experience there is problems with:
Batteries, triggers, electronics, chucks, overheating and melting terminals.
And the infamous impact wrench which got redesigned, presumably to save cost. This has still not been resolved in Europe, and when I ask the Milwaukee guys in my country, they simply refuse to know anything about this at all.
Stuart
I’ll try – do you have other specific SKU examples?
Tom
I have the M18 table saw, and that’s a tool that tends to overheat batteries and impact runtime. For new tools that have a high power draw like the router, etc. it would be great to have an understanding of what Milwaukee plans to do to mitigate the heat generation that seems to impact battery life.
TomD
My experience has seemed to indicate that the big tools REALLY need that 12ah high output battery (the 9ah just seems to flop in them).
Harrison
Milwaukee tools I’ve had personal experience with overheating off the top of my head:
-1 9/16 rotary hammer
-1 3/4” rotary hammer
-m18 Framing nailer
-71/4 m18 circular saws, both styles.
(Haven’t tried any of the table or miter saws.)
-My friend asked me the other day about what he can do to stop the terminals melting on his M18 8ah HO batteries.
Other common tools with heat/terminal issues:
-9” M18 cutoff saw
-MX fuel cutoff saw
-14” abrasive metal chop saw
-terminals on impact wrenches
Chris
What batteries are you most commonly using for these tools?
5AH?
John G
Per the online reviews, the M18 FUEL weed trimmer (2825-20ST) has a high tendency to overheat and melt the battery terminals. From what I’ve read most users are using the kit battery that came with it (XC8.0) when the problem happens.
I have one and haven’t experienced the issue yet, but I’m leary of cooking an expensive battery someday. I do run a larger battery though (HD12.0), in an attempt to mitigate the chance of failure.
Stuart
Thanks! I’ll make a note of it.
Matt
This is my first ever comment on an article just to tell you that you should look into the melted terminal thing closer. People constantly post about it on Reddit and the Milwaukee Facebook groups. Seems to be the vibration of the battery. Milwaukee does not seem to care at all that it ruins a tool and a battery all at once. See if you can get an answer from them other than a social media intern asking to email a generic email address. Customers deserve answers and none are being provided. I have two Quik Lok attachments but I will not be buying the trimmer attachment for this reason. I’ll stick to my 5 year old Ryobi that works flawlessly.
Stuart
It’s hard to keep track with what might be said on Reddit, Facebook, forums, social media, YouTube, or other places.
If I don’t hear about something in a public space, nobody emails me about it, and it’s not commented-about here (I checked and didn’t find anything), it might take time before I’m made aware of something I haven’t experienced first-hand.
It’s possible I might have seen a post about it, but there are a lot of one-off complaints everywhere about every brand that don’t turn into trends or patterns.
I’ll ask, and if there’s no opportunity next week, it’s something I will ask about afterwards.
Adam
I’ve read this complaint several times. Thought maybe it was later units, as I have one from year 1 release, and bought a second one this year. Neither have had problems with any 3ah, 8ah, or 12ah HO battery put on.
Usually it’s an 8 for weight / runtime, otherwise a 12. Don’t like using the 3ah, but in a pinch.
I have also used the pole saw & bristle brush attachments. Ran through multiple batteries in a row with the brush, and figured if anything was going to do the motor in, it would be that, but was fine.
With that said, I’ve heard enough people having theirs burn up to believe there is/was an issue with some sold, just not as widespread as thought
Jay
Others have given good input which I can supplement:
One of the worst things for me is the problem with 12ah batteries. And it seems quite a few people have experienced this. It’s their most expensive battery, flagship so to speak.
The Quik-Lok motor unit with melting terminals is pretty bad too.
I think quite a few of Milwaukee tools tend to overheat rather quickly when used hard. From drills to the cutoff saw.
The chucks they use on the flagship (fuel) drills, gen 3 & 4. I really wish they would improve that. And if they can’t, then use a Rohm chuck like many other brands.
Same with triggers. I have had quite a few drills not working because of the trigger. If they could improve the quality of that, I would gladly pay more for that.
Matt
The M18 12ah and M12 6.0ah seem to be the ones with the problems. And I’ve read plenty of complaints. I’m thinking it has to be the rapid chargers? Charging while too hot? I do not own a rapid charger yet and I can say when I get one it will not be used unless I need a charge asap.
Luke
I have 4 of the 12aH batteries. Not a single one will charge back up to full. Two of them max out a 2 lights, and the other two go up to 3 [out of 4] lights. It’s not just the lights, the performance is pretty dreadful. In the backpack vacuum or table saw, the ones with 2 bars die faster than an 8aH battery pack. I foolishly exclusively have/use the rapid chargers. In my defense though, Milwaukee did not advise against this and I had no reason to question it until all these issues showed up. Lots of other batteries have minor charging issues and don’t go to full charge, I just mentioned the 12aH because it happened to be 100% of them have issues.
Rx9
Rohm makes Milwaukee compatible replacement chucks. I swapped out on my M18 fuel hammer drill, and my m12 right angle, and the performance was worth the cost and effort
Steven
Nice, do you know which chuck fits the M12 right angle drill?
yehuda
We work a lot with the 2737 jigsaw, and we’ve had their trigger fail on three different jigsaw.
Dominic S
The one on my list is an updated M18 surge impact driver. I want to buy a surge in the worst way but I know the existing one has been around for a dog’s age and I know as soon as I buy it they will release a new one, just like when I bought the Gen 1 15ga nailer and they released the Gen 2 weeks later. Grumble.
Also the M18 jobsite bluetooth radio could use a refresh. That thing has been around a long while and it has older bluetooth technology but it rarely goes on a sale price low enough to justify buying it.
Kevin
Fuel m18 planer and orbital sander.
But really the only thing I care about is pouch cell or anything that handles the heat better. We have the 9 inch cut off saw. Its a great tool, so useful, but it overheats batteries like crazy.
Ben
An updated 6 1/4 in saw would be great and a larger diameter saw would be great like an 8 1/4 in.
Michael
An m18 leaf vac……
Rob H
I’m still hoping for an M12 powered jack. Would be great for a vehicle emergency kit.
TomD
you can stick a bolt end on a scissor jack and use an m12 impact to raise, but it’s not the same thing.
The hydraulic pump could probably be used to jack something but it’s way spendy.
A nice compact jack would be nice, especially if it used the remote trigger from the drain cleaner.
Chris
As many others have said. Updated surge impacts, but on the condition that they get quieter. The current trend is to increase power at the cost of noise. I would rather them focus on making the tools more compact and efficient. I’ve never had complaints on lack of power. The tools are just right for their category.
Also a Fuel m12 Jigsaw. The Gen 1 was a dog from the start. They could easily do a barrel grip jigsaw. The battery/handle form factor is already there. Chop the handle off the m12 fuel blower and stick a motor and skid plate to it and your done.
Farmerguy
I am guessing that we could see more Packout kits with Milwaukee hand tools such as screwdrivers, pliers, and combination wrenches.
I want to see 1 large drawer Packout for bottom of the stack to better utilize the spot and accessibility without unstacking all boxes above. Bonus if a new version with wheels.
TomD
I want to see the original rolling base packout (48-22-8426) with better wheels and drawers (or at least the front opening like 48-22-8445)
Sure I can build one kinda myself with the dolly, but that’s meh.
Also I want to see blackout™ available in the USA. they brought the tumbler over
Dan
Totally agree about the rolling box. It’s ALWAYS going to be at the bottom of the stack, so just make it drawers instead. The packout dolly they came out with doesn’t really do it for me as a proper upgrade or alternative. $200 for it, then another $300 for a couple drawer boxes if you really want to set things up properly.
Ridiculous.
TomD
A friend has the dolly, it works but it’s collapsable IIRC and it’s not really something I’d buy at full price.
Maybe as a cheap/free add-on someday.
Jason
Gen 3 blower, gen 2 is nice but not best in class anymore. Dual battery is heavy and honestly performance isn’t that great compared to higher voltage.
Larger chainsaw
Pouch batteries for sure, probably higher amp hour. 8 or 12. Would love to see a 15+ about the size of the old 12 but unlikely.
High torque impact
MX Fuel 8AH or 12ah battery for $1,000
M18 laser
M18 larger fan
More USB lights with USB-C
M18 coil roofing nailer like the 20V Dewalt. Maybe a concrete nailer
Wants but not as likely:
USB puck speaker that fits into Packout like the small Bose pill or JBL flip (think about the size of a tumbler)
USB headphones like Worktunes or isotunes
Quiklok snow blade or tiller
Backpack blower
Snow blower that was promised in 2022 (probably four 12.0 batteries. If it’s under $2k I’ll be shocked)
Car battery jumper like the Ryobi one just announced
Luke
Larger fan is an interesting thought. It seems to run a really long time on mid-size batteries. I’d love one quadruple the size with a quarter the runtime. I typically use it for less than half an hour at a time anyway
Doresoom
They have an M18 drum fan patent and a rotary laser patent filed!
ryan wolfe
Could you ask if they have any plans of changing the blade mount on the oscillating tool?
It’s my go to tool but I abhor the configuration.
Chris
What’s wrong with it?
It’s among the better designs I’ve used.
ryan wolfe
Having to flip the release switch and then loosen /tighten the bolt???…redundant. No other multi tool requires a 2 step process for attaching/removing blades
Luke
I actually love the locking lever. It means you never have to use more than light hand pressure to secure the screw. It took me ages to realize that though; I was using a large flathead to get it super tight each time. But now I just get it snug with my fingers and the lock holds it in place. I don’t see how you could maintain a tool-free blade change without some sort of locking mechanism like that
ryan wolfe
DEWALT has a bending lever lock system that works very well for non starlock blades.
And starlock is a far more sophisticated system which seems like what they’re all goin towards.
I love Makitas BL oscillator. Give it a look and tell me it doesn’t make Milwaukee’s look primitive
OldDominionDIYer
How about a set of PACKOUT sawhorses? Something that is somehow linked to, or works with, the PACKOUT products. They’d have to be sturdy, foldable, compact and durable (metal would be best). Seems like sawhorses are so very useful to so many trades that they could be a big seller. Would like to see Milwaukee get into the Lawn and Garden hand tools such as loppers, pruners, shears and the like. I know they just introduced the M12 pruners but hand tools are great too! I own an old pair of Made in the USA Fiskar pruners and they are decent but the new ones made in china are just terrible! Felco is the industry standard but I’m sure Milwaukee could compete with them.
Shane
M12 rivnut setter
M12 hot glue gun
M12 rotary tool with precision handle similar to the Ryobi style(I love my current rotary tool, but it is too heavy and bulky to do any detail work)
Adam
One can always use the Dremel attachments with the M12 rotatary, including the hand whip to get a little more control.
Shane
I have that attachment but the shaft isn’t very flexible
MM
I’d love an M12 hot glue gun.
An M12 “body saw” would be great too, something to compete with the Ingersoll C1101-K2. Bonus points if it can also take jigsaw blades.
Luke
M12 glue gun would be an instant purchase for me.
Is the whole idea/benefit of the body saw that it’s small and maneuverable? It looks so similar to the M12 hackzall that I’m not sure there’d be a market for it?
MM
Yes, the idea of the body saw is that it’s small and maneuverable. I like the Hackzall-style compact recip saws for “cut off” sort of applications but most aren’t very good for cutting curves in tight spots. There are two problems: First is that the shoe is too large, a problem that nearly every brand has. Second is that most only accept recip saw blades, which are generally too wide to cut curves well. There are a handful of models which take jigsaw blades. I bought a Metabo specifically for that feature. But it still has a larger shoe than I would like.
It will be interesting to see what they offer. Milwaukee seems to have gotten more into specialist auto body tools lately with it’s bandfile sanders so perhaps they will do a body saw as well?
Doresoom
They have a patent filed for an M12 rivnut gun. After manually threading the insert onto the mandrel, it spins it the rest of the way on, sets it, and unthreads the mandrel!
Jronman
Maybe we could see an m18 installation driver and maybe a gen 2 m12 installation driver that fixes a few things like the hard to attach chucks in some cases and the rough motor. Maybe we could see a high speed drill driver. It would be like what Festool and Metabo offer. This would also include the extra gear or two in the gearbox selector. Another thing I would like to see is opening up Packout line to other companies similar to what Tanos does. Basically anyone who needs their tool/product packaged can hire the Packout team to customize a box for the third party product including custom inserts and swapping out the red color and Milwaukee branding. I would also like to see tools come standard with packout instead of the blow molded cases or tool bags. I would even take Milwaukee designing a few lower cost options as long as it meant packout compatibility.
MM
The high speed drill/driver is a great idea. M12 aircraft style would be sweet.
Robert
Stuart, some of the most interesting questions they won’t answer. Like what do they think of Flex? What is their design/production/marketing response to Flex? Particularly in matching Flex’s warranty? For the new US based manufacturing, what wages and benefits do they have to offer to get good workers in the work is optional Covid environment? TTI is Hong Kong based. So has the CCP flaunting of civil law promises from the hand over from UK caused disruption in TII management by causing top management and talent to leave HK or prepare fall back bolt holds in Singapore, Canada and the US? Why are they late in rolling out pouch battery tech?
Stuart
Most of those are questions that I’m unlikely to get official answers to.
IF we talk about any of that, it would be because of the discretion I have shown in the past with respect to what I use for my own knowledge and what I share with readers.
TTI is headquartered in HK, but Milwaukee tool is based here. TTI is publicly traded, and as aside from the cofounders, the next largest shareholders are American companies. If I had unlimited time, we can run out of interesting tool-related things to talk about and delve into international politics. But not to mince words there’s never enough time to squeeze out everything I’d want to know that’s tool-related.
Flex is not a threat to Milwaukee yet. Things might be different in a couple of years.
I can answer the question about Milwaukee being late to rolling out battery tech. They’d say something about how they’re not late, they took the time to develop products up to the standards of their users, and that they didn’t want to rush things. They took the time to dial in the performance and with no compromise to safety or the user experience.
Will Milwaukee launch just one battery, as they did with HD 9Ah, or a line of batteries, as they did with the HO batteries? That would also share their response.
Let me ask this – which brand came out with the first 18V-class 5Ah battery? 21700-cell 8Ah battery? Compact 21700-cell 4Ah battery? Does it matter today?
Pouch cell cordless power tool battery tech is just taking off. Flex launched several batteries at once. Dewalt launched two batteries in stages. CAT has one size. Makita, Ridgid, Ryobi, Kobalt, Craftsman, Bosch, Metabo, Metabo HPT, Festool, Hilti, and others only have cylindrical cell batteries.
If a Milwaukee solution isn’t slated for release by early 2024, at that point I’d consider it to be a late entry.
xu lu
If you hold yourself out as a class leader, you lead the market in speed and quality. Anything else is failure. If competitors are already there and their solution isnt exploding in tool boxes, Milwaukee is late and has failed to lead. And the we want to get it right is corporate speak for the we know we failed excuse or this isnt a priority for us because the customer take rates for our competitors is not yet a threat, so lets slow roll it to use development dollars on decontenting our other products. Being an apologist for failure always leads to more failure.
Stuart
Dewalt announced their ToughSystem modular tool storage system 12 years ago. https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/dewalt-tough-system-tool-case-preview/%3C/a%3E%3C/p%3E
Milwaukee announced their Packout modular tool storage system 6 years ago. https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/milwaukee-packout-tool-boxes-photo-introduction/%3C/a%3E%3C/p%3E
By your logic, Packout is a failure because it wasn’t first?
Robert
Stuart, Dewalt had pouch batteries out about two years ago. Flex, what early this year? For Milwaukee when your peer nation rival beats you by 2 years, and an upstart that is already making waves in top end power, beats you to market on these batteries, I think that’s fair to categorize as being late to the game. Especially when, as some readers report here, you current batteries are inadequate and overheating. Pouch batteries will help mitigate that.
I prefaced by saying these were questions they would not answer, but are interesting questions. I didn’t even bring up if Milwaukee’s design division is ISO9001 certified. ISO9001 quality standard requires companies to monitor and consistently meet customer’s requirements (though the wording was better in older versions, it’s been watered down more recently). Having overheating, possibly contact meltdowns, is not meeting customer requirements consistently.
I really don’t have a junkyard dog in the fight. I started with Dewalt because they had the best specialty tools I needed at the time, cordless right angle drill and the cordless tire inflator. I see big red and big yellow as neck to neck. But as someone whose job was to evaluate companies to their compliance to quality standards and Malcom Baldrige performance, my mind naturally goes down these paths of interesting questions. Because if they score well in them, the company is very likely turning out high performing, quality products that meet customers’ expectations. Interesting, companies that get the Malcolm Baldrige awards out perform the market. Unfortunately, I’ve yet to find an index fund built around MB awardees.
MM
If I remember correctly, Dewalt’s first Powerstack battery, 1.7ah, hit the market at the very end of 2021. The 5ah Dewalt came out late last year. FLEX had their Stacked Lithium packs out around March last year.
Stuart
PowerStack 1.7Ah – Announced October 2021
PowerStack 5.0Ah – Announced November 2022
Yeah – that’s about 2 years now for the compact battery, and nearly 1 for the 5Ah.
Rufus
1” packout drawers
Big Richard
No questions really, but I can recommend some of the better breweries for you to check out while in the area.
Big Richard
Also, I thought they had a smaller push lawn mower coming out to compliment the larger self propelled mower, if so I expect we will see that.
Steve
Maybe some more items that can be used with the m4 batteries?
TomD
Ask about using USB-C PD instead of the old weird USB “A” connector they still seem to use.
Ryan
I’d like to see the following :
M18 roofing nailer
M18 7/16 medium crown stapler
Dewalt makes a battery roofing nailer but Milwaukee is does not. What gives??
Dan
I’d kill for an M12 Fuel angle grinder. It’s the only tool missing to really round out the M12 lineup as far as being able to tackle just about anything you come across.
I understand it would obviously be very light duty, but that’s all I’m asking. Be able to make a few cut-offs, and do some light grinding.
It would allow me to completely standardize my mobile kit on M12 batteries and chargers (drill, impact, hackzall, oscillating tool, light). All I’m missing is a little 4.5” grinder!
Pre-organized packout additions (like the socket sets) would be a great add in my book. Looks like they’re kinda going in that direction with the tap and die sets coming out, which is great. Would love to see a proper Shockwave bit set in a packout case – but organized like the little cases are.
MM
Have you considered either the straight or the 90-degree M12 die grinders? They are great for light-duty grinding and cut well with a 3″ abrasive disc.
Dan
I’ve got the right angles, yes. I’m a big fan, but really only like them for roloc’s. I’ll have to see about some 3” arbors and cutoffs for it. Can’t say I’ve ever really considered it!
Matt
I’d be shocked (and disappointed) if a dual battery chainsaw wasn’t in the works. Also a dual battery Quik Lok power head (if the attachments can handle it).
Adam
an air hammer
Rx9
Yes. There needs to be a cordless equivalent of an air hammer. If Milwaukee makes this, as I have been advising them to do for years, they will sell a ton of these to auto shops.
Doresoom
I’ll just leave this here: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220371172A1/en
eddie sky
Improvement to M18 Rover LED. While its great with smaller battery, a larger M18 tends to defeat its purpose of versatility (battery in way).
More LED lighting (headlamp, task for painting/color correct and handheld).
Fuel Planer would be nice (if it was portable planer with helical blades…BOOYAH).
Fuel Mini Router
Fuel Stapler
Lower prices on the Fuel Crimper for Pex/ProPress.
and release the revised 1/2″ Impact that had anvil issues.
Dust collection. Take on Festool with something that is DustDeputy and portable, and works with M18 tools with vacuum fitting.
Darren Railey
I want an m18 extention pole lopper. I’m so close to buying the Ryobi but I know once I do, Milwaukee will come out with one.
Trevor
I’m a bit late to commenting (busy week), but the couple of items on my list would be:
1/2 width packout tool boxes, there is the full height one, but shorter ones would allow task specific kits (for example, test meters & tools in one kit, crimping in another, rotary tool and bits in another, et.al.)
a kit to put pneumatic wheels on the rolling box, or preferably a collapsible dolly for rough terrain.
a 12″ cutoff saw (2x M18?) the 9″ is handy, and we use gas 14″ (the MX version is too expensive yet, maybe a gen2 version in future more affordable?)
Another comment mentioned a concrete nailer, add my vote for that. The comment about sawhorse/portable workbench also caught my interest / attention also.
Stuart… have a good time at the event, I look forward to your postings about it.
Doresoom
I just uploaded my annual Milwaukee Tool patent video on YouTube. A LOT of what people have asking for here are in it!
Here’s the list with links:
M12 Router: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2023055724A1/en
M12 FUEL Jigsaw: https://patents.google.com/patent/CN218745244U/en
M12 Rivnut Tool: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200070327A1/en
Rotary Laser System: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220316874A1/en
M18 Modular Chainsaw: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230226714A1/en
M18 Packout Dust Extractor: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220151447A1/en
M18 “Air Hammer”: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220371172A1/en
M18 Pivoting Rover: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220412516A1/en
Windshield Removal System: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230150161A1/en
Duplex Nailer: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2023097272A1/en
Toolless Grinder: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2022261190A1/en
Safety Grinder: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230158658A1/en
M18 Stud Shear: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220234231A1/en
Redlithium USB: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2023130135A1/en
Packout Accessories: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200165036A1/en
Packout Work Cart: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220144326A1/en
Packout Worktables: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220240671A1/en
Packout Solar Charger: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220109321A1/en
Packout Fan: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220290679A1/en
Pedestal Fan: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2022192704A1/en
Motion Tracking Fan: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2022183110A1/en
M18 Drum Fan: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220290680A1/en
Wireless heated gear charging: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220385111A1/en
Heated Socks: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230157383A1/en
Folding M12 Battery: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220416355A1/en
Doug N
Great work and videos, thank you.
MM
The “air hammer” looks very interesting! I am curious how powerful it will be compared to the classic pneumatic model.
JR Ramos
A *folding* battery pack, you say?!?? How bizarre. I guess the final art with the heated jacket would be the aim here?
Thanks for all that leg work again and sharing with us!
Charles Douglas Sanders
Packout microwave would be nice. Also need a packout set of allen sae, metric, and torx sockets.
Justin
Any chance we see a Gen 3 M18 18 gauge Brad nailer?
Stuart
I’d say the chance is low.
They just announced a new finish nailer. I feel that a hypothetical new brad nailer would have been announced alongside it.
Justin
Yea you are probably correct. Also, I think the Gen 2 received absolutely awesome reviews so the incentive to move to a Gen 3 is probably relatively low.
KT
Ryobi 4V used to have noise canceling headphones. I wish they’d do that for RedLithium, but I don’t see it mentioned in patents. Would be cool if also BT capable for music….I mean there’s already speakers in there
Big Richard
The M12 brad nailer was a surprise. I think the 2xM18 backpack blower and trimmer were half expected, but nice to see them come to fruition.
Steve
Is there anywhere you can watch the Pipeline event?
Wunky
I’d like to see:
#1 updated M18 fuel mud mixer.(2810-20) It needs more power and slightly higher rpm. Also add the quik lock chuck that is on the hole hawg instead of the old keyed chuck. Standard mud and mortar beaters will fit.
#2 M12 drywall screwgun.
#3 Drywall sander. A few must have’s on a sander are random orbit, full circumference light on the head, and M18/120v AC option(who wants to carry a battery while attached to a vacuum hose?)
#4 usb screwdriver
#5 M18 fuel drywall cutout tool
Also just for the kicks a packout microwave, and a regular old, normal sized lunch box in packout