Milwaukee Tool has kicked off their countdown to Pipeline 2024, their annual new tool and product media event.
The Milwaukee Pipeline media event is always high-intensity full day of new tool introductions, demonstrations, interviews, and sneak peeks.
Milwaukee Tool leaders, product managers, and engineers make themselves available to discuss everything from broad plans to the most detailed technological development.
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That’s always the best part – getting unfiltered answers to on-the-spot questions. To give you an idea about what’s on the table, we’ve talked about the future of USA hand tool production, electrical power distribution in next-level high-powered tools, and how aerodynamics impact the efficiency of a cordless mower deck.
ToolGuyd will be covering Pipeline again this year, which brings me to ask you 3 questions.
1) What do you want to know?
I asked this of ToolGuyd readers last year, and received some great questions to ask. We shared some of those answers already, and you’ll be seeing a couple more as Pipeline approaches.
2) What do you think will be announced? What kinds of tools are you hoping for?
There’s going to be at least one new M18 FORGE battery, and possibly updated tools that can leverage its higher power capabilities. Refer to this post for a background discussion: Milwaukee Pipeline Primer: M18 Forge Batteries.
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We’re very likely to see new Packout tool boxes as well, hopefully a rolling tool box with drawers. Milwaukee is working on such a model, and the question is whether it’s ready.
3) What kind of event coverage do you want to see?
My primary objective is always to learn as much as possible. This means asking questions and demoing tools.
If there’s a question of being quick with a social media post or learning more about a new tool, deep insights and details will always take top priority.
Scores of influencers will be churning out social media content. For the past few events, retailers have shared news and preorder notifications while we were still on the bus heading to the event. Everyone at home will also be sharing about the new products. Chances are, you’ll know what’s being announced or introduced before I do.
That said, there’s some wiggle room for day-of coverage, and I’m open to reader requests and suggestions.
What do you want to see regarding day-of and post-event coverage? I don’t think that live-streaming will be feasible, but I can certainly try to cater to readers’ requests regarding interview, tech explanation, or hands-on demo coverage.
I’m also looking for ways to more quickly receive any same-day reader questions. It can be difficult to check emails, blog comments, social media comments, and social media messages in a timely manner, let alone when I’m interviewing product managers or shuffling between demo stations.
Robert
More details on their plans for USA production. They probably will be cagey, but any details would be interesting. Will they give a rough percentage of production figure?
NS
What about a riding mower? Ryobi has had one for a while. I need to justify more batteries!
MM
I’d be very happy if Milwaukee would give straight no-BS answers to the questions you asked them about the 2767 Impact wrench shenanigans from over a year ago.
https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/milwaukees-m18-fuel-2767-impact-wrench-probems/%3C/a%3E%3C/p%3E
They did not tell you why this design change was made. They did not tell you why they didn’t catch the problem. Honest answers without dodging the questions would be very nice to hear.
Anyway, there’s nothing specific I am looking for from Milwaukee right now but I’m always interested in whatever new M12 tools they might have, I will definitely be paying attention if there are any new models on that platform.
Stuart
I had 3, maybe 4 conversations about that last year.
My understanding is that the design wasn’t thoroughly vetted enough. As I understand it, new procedures are in place to ensure something like that can never happen with a rolling update again.
There’s a limit as to what kinds of details can be shared. From what was said, I at least feel confident that a repeat is extremely unlikely.
Matt
Torque Test Channel on YouTube has also had issues with an impact driver of theirs recently. I believe it is shearing gears. They state it’s the 2953. Did not look to be an isolated incident, although not as bad as the 2767.
However, being that the gen 3 didn’t have issues but the gen 4 does, would love to hear an acknowledgement / response.
Tucker
On the topic of Forge batteries, any updates on a ~3 Ah compact battery. Something with the output of the older 6Ah batteries for tools which can use the additional power output (vs the 3 or 5 Ah battery), but lower weight is desirable – thinking hammer drills, compact router, etc. Many times I rather swap batteries a couple times vs putting a 6Ah on the tool.
Stuart
I think a high-powered compact battery is inevitable, it’s just a matter of whether we’ll see one now or in the future.
Saulac
M12: a true 3” angle cutter, a Dewalt Atomic circular saw type circular saw, a stick shape (like the die grinder, angle impact, oscillation tool,…) tire inflator. Dear Milwaukee, please never make anything shape like the current one again. It might look good on a test bench but it does not fit into a tool box, as a portable tool supposed to. Please do not enclose the battery in a housing, like on the tire inflator or the tripod light, needless to say M12 batteries are not the easies to remove, there is no reason to make it worse. Lastly, everyone like the amazing power the newly released tools pack, but some of us miss the ergonomic and esthetic of the early tools. Please do not turn M12 line into an other 18 line in your pursuit of “same power as 18v”.
Stuart
It was discussed a few years ago that the goal for M12 is powered versions of operations typically done by hand, and we’ve also seen tools designed to eliminate the need for air tools.
I don’t think 18V-equivalent is a goal for M12, although some core tools could effectively replace lower power 18V tools.
fred
I won’t try to make any predictions but do think that they should be looking at some of the items that Metabo and Metabo-HPT have launched as cordless tools that have little or no direct competition. I’m thinking about the Metabo #600154850 burnishing machine and the #600192850 pipe polishing sander – plus the Metabo HPT NR3665DA strap/connector nailer, and the NR3675DD concrete form duplex nail gun.
mikeD
Milwaukee actually just announced a duplex recently, not sure when it will be available
Justin
m12 / m18 Surge gen 2?
Brandon
I second this. These are old in the tooth and need updates.
I also want to see an updated 16″ chainsaw and a new 18 out 20″
Drew M
A dual battery M18 chainsaw is coming…
Dominic S
I have been waiting for a gen 2 M18 surge because I just KNOW as soon as I buy the old one a new one is going to come out, like when I bought the 15ga nailer. Boom Gen 2 comes out 6 months later.
jon98
I did the same with gen1 high torque impact gen 2 came out within 2 months
Nathan
Even just an update to the triple light version housing would be fine. Since no other tool manufacturer has really introduced a significant update to previous hydraulic impacts, I suspect there are no easy gains to be made for performance. In which case an ergonomics/experience update is perfectly acceptable.
What I’d really love to see is a USB-C powered dual M12 fast charger. I’d even accept a more durable single charger if it accepted USB-PD and PPS. GaN chargers are coming down in price and going up in performance so it’s not unreasonable to start treating power tool batteries like other electronics.
They absolutely have to address whatever is going on with their current 4 port sequential charger. If you look at reviews they’re dying at alarming rate.
Sam
Commercial Refrigeration tech here
I realize press fittings for copper tubing is making a lot of in-roads and the M18 tools are already here. But, it would be nice to have an M12 swaging tool and also a flaring tool.
M12 tools for the kitchen would be nice too. How about a carving/fillet knife and a stick blender??
Saulac
A stick blender probably can be easily made based on the M12 snake driver or the tire buffer.
Austin
Did you see the swaging tool Dewalt announced earlier this year?
A carving knife would be awesome
Jason M
1) what’s the high powered tool strategy. Several 2 battery tools have launched recently but there’s still a gap between 36V and MX in terms of performance and power. Can 2 forge 12 Ah Batteries handle a snowblower? Etc.
2) the rumored flat power source will be nice for heated gear not having a soup can poke you in the kidneys.
20”+ dual battery chainsaw for sure to fill that gap. Expect it to have some marketing buzzword like the Rancher or Farm Boss from Husq and Stihl.
Some landscaping hand tools like loppers and pruners. Would actually be really cool to see an extendable handle lopper like the bolt cutters.
More apparel, pants, shirts, etc. probably more women’s gear. Doubt we see the shoes from the other side of the pond though but maybe. Some belts.
More USB lighting updates with USB-C.
Probably some one-key updates maybe a cellular option for tracking or satellite with all these high end tools.
Personally would like to see an automotive battery jumper they’ve been a little far behind on.
Was thinking about this the other day, do they still not having just a standard pair of pliers? Like the pair of pliers you’d see every farmer EDC.
Since it’s 2024 gotta be some AI/machine learning mentions.
BrianA
Considering the M18 mower sucks and it also kills HO batteries I don’t think you want a M18 dual battery mower. It would need more than 2 batteries.
Also have you handled a 2xM18 product, too heavy and akward, don’t think it would go well with a chainsaw.
M18 XC 6.0, HD 9.0, HO 6,8,12s, M12 6.0s, USB 4v all have had issues. No way I am forking any $$ over for Forge. I have had so many batteries die it’s kinda upsetting.
Jason M
I swapped all my lawn tools out for 80V Greenworks and have had great luck. Blower is more powerful and lighter than the dual battery Milwaukee. Way more tool options but they tick me off with launching some things 60 some 80 for different retailers.
BrianA
I meant to say snow blower, yeah I almost bought the Ego once, and the 2 stage is 56v, only way it makes sense is MX, else you need 3-4 M18s, price of 4 Forge 12s would cost more than the whole Ego package.
I either want lower M18 battery prices or longer warranty. All my M18 HOs die right after 3 years.
fred
I have been loath to complain about batteries because my use cases etc. may not represent what the entire fleet looks like. But I have bought 6 M18 9Ah batteries (48-11-1890) – one in 2016 and 5 in 2017 – and only 1 of them still takes a charge despite infrequent use. My 48-11-1828’s of the same vintage still seem OK and a few of my -1850’s seem to be hanging in.
In comparison, after a few early failures with Makita BL-1830’s in 2008 – most (2/3) of my Makita batteries seem to soldier on – even ones bought in 2010.
Over the years (2008 to present) I bought 30 Makita 18V batteries scattered around with tools at 3 domiciles. At last count, I’ve had to scrap 10 of them.
With Milwaukee, I’ve bought 48 M18 batteries starting in 2014. I reckon that 30 of those batteries still hold charge – which is about the same percentage (63% vs 67%) as for the Makita batteries – but 9 of the Milwaukee batteries that I bought before 2017 have all been scrapped.
With such small numbers this is probably not statistically significant – but a gut feeling says that my Makita batteries have lasted longer as a fleet. I do tend to grab my Milwaukee tools more often (more located at my principal residence) so I may well be cycling their batteries differently than those on my Makita tools – which may account for some of the differences.
Cubbie
My HD 9.0’s all failed much too soon. Not surprising Milwaukee dropped them. But I have yet to have an XC 5.0 fail me. Some are from 2016 and in daily use.
Rob H
I’m still holding out hope for a compact bottle jack sized/styled jack. I think it would be super convenient to have something like that.
Josh
+1
JR Ramos
Y’know that sounds like a really convenient application! Does anyone else have one on the market? The big downfall I could see is returns and warranty failures…because jacks. I would definitely be interested in one even if it was just a 4-ton.
Victor
I would love to see an update to the M12 line, 4 volt red lithium 3.0 line, packout line, and the hand tools line.
– [ ] New Brushless Fuel M12 Car Starter
– [ ] New Brushless Fuel M12 Router (like the12 volt Bosch)
– [ ] New Brushless Fuel M12 Rivet Nut Gun
– [ ] Updated Brushless Fuel M12 Variable Polisher
– [ ] Updated Brushless Fuel M12 Right Angle Impact
– [ ] Updated Brushless Fuel M12 Right Angle Drill
– [ ] Updated Brushless Fuel M12 Compact Vacuum
– [ ] Updated Brushless Fuel M12 Spot Blower
– [ ] Updated Brushless Fuel M12 Caulk Gun
– [ ] 4 volt electric screwdriver like the ryobi
– [ ] 4 volt electric box cutter like the ryobi
– [ ] 4 volt 3/8 ratchet like the ryobi
– [ ] 4 volt tire inflator like the ryobi
– [ ] basically copy and paste the ryobi line of products for the red lithium 3.0 line. 😅
– [ ] Packout comparable ladder 🪜
– [ ] Single drawer rolling box like the ridgid
– [ ] Packout inserts for the hand tools (like the new wrench inserts for Packout and the socket sets)
– [ ] Packout inserts for accessories for grinding dics, isolating blades, jig saw blades similar to the Packout inserts for the sawzall blades they released or the precision screwdriver set in the packout compatible case)
– [ ] Nitrus jig saw blades like the Nitrus sawzall blades and the isolating blades
– [ ] Nitrus hole saws like the Nitrus sawzall blades and the osolating blades
– [ ] Chisel set (they have them in the UK)
BrianA
I gave up on hope for the 4v tools that I bought the whole Ryobi lineup earlier this year on some good deals LOL.
But it’s prolly the same battery as some of the Ryobis died very quickly just like some of my Milwaukee USB ones.
Victor
I love the ryobi line of 4 volt tools but I bought so many of the Milwaukee head lights from the hard hat lamp, pivoting flash light to the carabiner light and would love it if they expanded the line.
TTI owns both Ryobi and Milwaukee so it shouldn’t be much of an issue. That being said, Milwaukee is more “pro” and Ryobi is more “dyi”. One can only wish. 😅
BrianA
I hear ya, I have prolly a dozen Milwaukee USB lights, but it’s been like 6yrs+, I still have the old M4 screwdriver I use. Even if they came out with just 1 non-light USB tool this year, it will take how many years to match the Ryobi offerings… plus they will prolly cost 3x the price of the Ryobi’s.
Victor
Very true. It would definitely be more expensive knowing Milwaukee.
Stuart
They wouldn’t launch 1 non-light USB tool per year. The levels were isolated launches. If Milwaukee were to launch say a new line of motorized RedLithium USB tools, I imagine there would be a bunch of them all at once.
Also, keep in mind that the Ryobi USB Lithium system first launched less than 2.5 years ago. https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/ryobi-usb-lithium-cordless-power-tools/%3C/a%3E%3C/p%3E
If Milwaukee intends for motorized tools, they’d launch a large first wave, large second wave, and then a few years of expansions.
So far, they explicitly expressed not being interested in 3.6V/4V Max motorized tools. That the M4 line consists of a single screwdriver supports this.
This post comes to mind – https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/milwaukee-m4-cordless-screwdriver-redlithium-usb-2022/%3C/a%3E%3C/p%3E
Jason M
Jun 17, 2024
I can think of several that would sell well.
Screwdriver yes – especially for the data techs.
Beyond that (non-motorized), a pill speaker that would twist into packout like the tumblers, over the ear hearing protection like 3M Worktunes, voltage meter, LDM to name a few
Saulac
Brushless Fuel M12 Car Starter…unless you meant something like a drill that turns the crankshaft bolt…I also like a jumper using one or multiple M12 batteries, especially if also is a charger via car or house power. Heck why not also has AC and USB outputs.
Victor
I would love a M12 Car Started when the 12 Volt battery on a car is dead we can use the M12 batteries to start the car. It would pair great with the M12 inflator that I keep in my car. Many USB car starts exist on the market with so many features like a led light, inflator and a car starter but we all have so many m12 batteries laying around. One can only wish. 😅
JR Ramos
I would not want the jump starter, not with any of their current M12 batteries. For the same reason I probably wouldn’t be interested in an M12 router although it would get my attention. Now, if they were to bring out something like a 9-cell pack, or a new pack shape using 21700 cells, or especially a pouch cell, then I would probably jump on these tools and those batteries. But as is, they just ask too much of 18650 cells sometimes…the new 5Ah with the samsung 25S cells seem to do better but those are still pretty limited compared to 21700. The little power planer really takes it out of the battery fast (does perform wonderfully) so I imagine that a router would barely be feasible and they’d probably get the same doofuses that put more than flush trim bits in them like they do with the Bosch. But I think the amp draw from car starting would really anger the M12 pixies…..I wouldn’t do it to my batteries anyway, not when cheap and effective jump packs can be had for the same or lower price than the M12 batteries.
MM
A tiny router that’s more solid than those attachments for a dremel would be a very handy tool, I would buy one in a heartbeat. I’m sure you’re right, some moron would put a huge radius bit in it and then complain that it lacks power. But just thinking about it, the M12 straight die grinder would have enough power for trimming laminate and doing small bevels, roundovers, rabbets, etc. Also I think Bosch has a 12V cordless router. So I think the proof of concept is there.
fred
I bought the Bosch GKF12V-25N in 2018. It gets some pretty mixed revies online. I use it for inlay work and find it a very useful tool for that. If I expected it to replace one of my trim routers then I’d also be giving it poor grades. My only complaint is that it was pricey for such a specialized tool. But I garb it often in place of a William Ng router base for one of my Foredom handpieces (mine cost $145 in 2013) but the new model is $239
https://onceatreestudio.com/products/new-router-base-for-foredom
Josh
Any packout expansion? I’d personally like to see something like the transporter series from toughbuilt
Jason M
Instead you’ll get more colors of tumblers like the Stanley/Yeti approach. Same formula they followed with heated hoodies. Start with red, then black, then gray etc.
TomD
I just want some blackout here in the States.
Jason M
IIRC only reason they went black with cases and packouts in other countries was Hilti or someone having a patent on red tool boxes (who knew you could patent a whole color).
I doubt they would do it here unless sales were absolutely terrible and they needed a boost
Stuart
Yep, that’s what I was told – that this resulted from an agreement with Hilti.
This runs into “trade dress” territory.
It’s like how you can’t sell digital multimeters with yellow and grey color scheme in the USA – https://14cyiuhvcgv.com/fluke-sparkfun-multimeter-trademark-infringement/%3C/a%3E .
Stuart
I think that’s likely.
Matt S
I guess they’ll have prepared talking points on this, but I’d like to hear what they have to say about some of the product quality misses and what they’re doing to improve. The TTC video on the M18 impact drivers. The issue with the brushless rotary tool cutting out in the lowest speed. Those are two recent ones I experienced myself.
There are a number of others I’ve read about but not expreienced, like multiple reviews of the mower’s motor tearing itself off the deck if the blade hits anything unmovable.
More power, more features, better whatever doesn’t mean as much if the tools don’t last.
Stuart
I haven’t heard anything about the impact driver or rotary tool yet, will look into it.
Milwaukee PMs tend to be open about answering questions. They generally don’t have prepared talking points about influencer content, but are generally well-versed about common user complaints or issues.
Ask a specific question, and I can try to get a specific answer.
What usually happens when a mower hits something immovable? That’s something else nobody has brought up before, and so I’ll have to do some digging.
Chris Lopuski
Roofing Nailer???
Mike Fliss
Ditto. Roofing, siding, and how about a positive placement nailer for Simpson hangers.
Big Richard
Roofing nailer has already been confirmed, it has been at official Milwaukee promo events in Europe. Fall 2024 is their expected release, I have to assume it will be the same in the NA market?
HTG
I’m most excited to hear about the first tool they launch where the product manager doesn’t kick of with, “I’m excited to introduce to you…”
Honestly, it’s beyond cringe, now.
JR Ramos
I’d like to know if they plan on some more updates with some M12 tools. Specifically I’d love to see a Fuel version of the 3″ cutoff tool that has some sustainable power that might pair well with the 5Ah battery. Been waiting to see if this will happen before begrudgingly purchasing the DeWalt 20v version instead.
I’d also be curious about why they seem to have forgone ambidextrous controls on several of the newer tools (thinking M12 again here). The new jigsaw stood out right away – as a lefty there’s just no way so they lost a sale there and I was really looking forward to the updated version. The old one was so great in most aspects, just needed a blower, and if they wanted to beef up the power and add orbital action, fine, but they started from scratch and left out the lefties.
Also curious about battery improvements for M12 but I imagine that’s not a priority and/or won’t be known until they let it be known. A 9-cell 18650 pack, or a reconfiguration with 21700 cells (would have housing interference on many tools so that may be a nonstarter idea), or most especially a pouch cell which seems completely doable and might be great on tools like the vacuum, planer, polisher, cutoff tool, etc…high drain tools that need the performance qualities that 18650 gets angry about delivering.
Ditto on the smaller M18 Forge pouch cells, too.
And very random, why did they decide some time back to abandon the awesome German-made SDS bits? Their current crop from China does not perform as well or last as long. Just a cost-savings thing for them, or a supply issue?
Andrew
Can we get some tall sizes on the the apparel and headed gear lines?
Rx9
I have a few guesses, including:
– an air hammer alternative, probably at 18v
– a revised 12v power source, with a usb-c input port
– more plumbing tools
– an airless paint sprayer
– an outside chance they took my suggestion of a compact jigsaw (think of a one handed sawzall using jigsaw blades) designed for tight spaces
Paul
As a finish carpenter who installs a lot of prefinished trim on cabinets, I would love to see a 21 ga brad/pin nailer. 18 ga nails leave a large hole to fill with fillsticks but 23 gauge can be difficult especially in oak trim. I currently have all of Milwaukee’s trim nailers.
Excited to see what they are going to integrate with the new dust extractor. I would also like to see a smaller option available. One that works well for job cleanup and could be carried throughout a house while cleaning up the dirt from that day’s work. My current cordless one is the Makita xgt 2 gallon. My Festool midi 1 gets used the most but having a cordless one is a nice option depending on the task.
How about a biscuit joiner?
And definitely some new packout. Like a rolling box with 1 or 2 drawers. And a work table would be great!
Looking forward to your coverage of the event!
Leo B.
Looking forward to it! Interested to see if there’s a new crop of tape measures, or similar measurement tools. Also interested in the framing nailer. Will there be a Gen 2 soon? If so, what improvements will there be, and what would make me buy it? The positive placement nailer idea Mike Fliss mentioned above would be awesome as well. A compact, lightweight cordless positive placement nailer would be great. Anything on the roadmap for that?
Dominic S
Looking for:
Gen 2 M18 and M12 Surge Drivers
Pole Scrubber attachment for M18 String trimmer power head
Packout compatible air compressor/inflator
Longshot/Wishlist
M18 Compatible Hot Shot/Jumper Box
M18 Coffee maker
M18 Powered Cooler/Chiller/Refrigerator
Bob
I wish Milwaukee would redesign the forward/ back button . It always gets in the way when you try to squeeze trigger your hand hits it all the time. Anyone agree or am l being ridiculous?
Dominic S
I’ve done this many times myself, but I do like that I can get to it without moving my hand!
Shane
I wouldn’t worry about doing the live stream. There are always tons of content creators doing that, and I find them to be annoying and rude, interrupting the presenters, etc.
Your content from previous years was always great with your full rundowns of everything released and your thoughts on each release.
Brian Collins
Please ask when Milwaukee will add an M12 powered RC car – only half kidding on this one
MM
It’s been many years since I’ve been into RC but I think that would be easy to DIY. You can buy receptacles on Amazon which accept M12 batteries. Wire up one of those to the RC car in place of the normal battery pack and then you’re good to go. An M12 battery should be appropriate for a model normally using a 3s LiPo pack. You could do this with larger batteries as well, the various 18V class batteries like Milwaukee M18 or Dewalt 20V Max replacing 5s LiPos.
For example:
https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-Converter-Terminals-Connector-Robotics/dp/B0BK88BXZ5/
Rick
It would be nice if Milwaukee would release an 18 volt version of their 3 inch cut off tool. Pretty much all the other major brands are offering a 3 inch cut off in 18 volt. From what I’ve seen in head to head comparisons DeWalt usually wins. It would seem to me that this would be incentive enough for Milwaukee to step up.
Tim
No snowblower, it’s a fail. It was announced two years ago as “coming next year” so that was 2023 and crickets.
Nothing else matters.
Stuart
The snowblower was referenced in a Q&A session; just because they were working on one, that doesn’t mean it was “announced.”
Cordless snowblowers are tough for 18V battery systems. I tested Dewalt’s last year, and it was decent, but compromised. Even with 12Ah batteries, as Dewalt’s product pages say is required, its performance was limited and the batteries overheated.
If we finally see a Milwaukee M18 cordless snowblower, it’ll be because they were waiting to bring the tabless 12Ah battery to market.
If we don’t see one, I’ll ask for an update.
Tim
I mean, the man said “next year, 2023” when asked when it’s launching.
That’s about as close to an announcement as you can get without an official announcement
Stuart
I was there.
It was a non-concrete teaser based on a goal and active development.
It was most certainly not an announcement.
It’s fair to be disappointed, but not fair to say they made an announcement and didn’t deliver on it.
Tim
But thank you. Be interesting to see what shakes
Bill
Unless I missed it, I only found one snowblower on Dewalt’s website and it’s a 60V Max machine, DCSNP2142. Your statement implies that you tested an 18V Dewalt snowblower and found it compromised. Was there an earlier 18V (20V Max) Dewalt snowblower?
Stuart
60V Max, but I consider FlexVolt to be closer to 18V than say dedicated cordless OPE battery systems.
A FlexVolt battery still only has 15 Li-ion cells. Even though the battery back can deliver higher voltage, it still has 15 cells driving a load, not too different from a 15-cell 18V battery.
How many watts can a 15-cell battery deliver?
If an 18V battery can handle a load, a 60V battery with similar cells should be capable of the same.
If a 60V battery struggles to deliver abundant power and runs hot, similar is likely – or worse – for an 18V battery with similar cells.
There’s a difference between 18V form factor batteries and cordless OPE system batteries, even if the voltage is the same.
SV
I’d love to see a USB 4v battery fan for there bolt hard hats.
M12 fast changer. 2 ports or more would be nice.
M12 chisel hammer
Scott Simpson
Im hoping for:
M18 jump pack
M18 usb charger (like the DeWalt DCB094K)
Solar charging options, albeit unlikely
M18 Fuel fan
Rielly
Harwood Flooring nailer??? When is Milwaukee coming out with that? Its long overdue! Any info on that?
fred
Does anyone else have such a tool? I think I saw a Dewalt (possibly discontinued) that fired staples (not cleats) for engineered flooring. But I don’t ever recall seeing a cordless tool for firing cleats for hardwood installation.
Rielly
Now that the full set of finish nailers is out, with the exact same technology Milwaukee could do the hardwood floor nailer (for 3/4in thick hardwood is 16ga nails, they already have a regular 16ga nailer so its not hard to do). Why should i still need a compressor for interior nailing when all my other nailers are M18?
AC
I second this, that would be a welcome addition to the line and truly allow the compressor to collect dust. The volume of nails this nailer has to fire though calls into question its feasibility as the maintenance interval on the cartridge would be very short. Ive thought the same thing on roofing nailer. I would go through a whole per job on some jobs with their current counts and thats not realistic. Not sure how to remedy this but definitely looking forward to the answer
fred
IIRC – we picked some different pneumatic L-cleat mailers (20ga, 18ga. and 16ga.) depending on the application. We had good luck with the Powernail brand – but Bostitch and others make these tools in pneumatic versions. Like you, I find it odd that neither Milwaukee nor anyone else (that I can find) seem to make a cordless version for these tools. I do spot what’s advertised as a cordless flooring nailer from Freeman – but that is a combo tool that shoots 18ga brads and staples – not L-cleats. I don’t know if the challenge with L-cleats is a technological one or if the manufacturers don’t think there is a large enough market – but it would be nice to have a cordless alternative.
Richard
I want to know how they prioritize upgrades to existing products. Their Packout Dolly is great on paper but people report it is too fragile for how much it costs. When do they decide to rev the design and come out with V2 versus investing that engineering and production time in a new tool? Do they have a formula or do they just wing it? What factors go into that decision?
Their miter saws have been out for years and many report they are meh. Same with cordless sander.
I’m happy they just rolled out a brushless rotary tool (dremel competitor) but that seems to be a case where the old one just was not good at all. Versus some of the products I mentioned are okay, but could be better.
Other products like M12 impacts are great but got a refresh to be even better. Why that tool and not a different one? What are the variables? When will we see another version of the M12 surge? If nothing else I would like more LEDs like their impact.
Stuart
This is the type of question I can expect very controlled answers to, because it amounts to proprietary strategy.
I’ll try to ask, but I’m not sure I’ll get shareable answers.
Most power tool brands are constantly looking to improve their tools, and seem to wait until there are enough changes or improvements to launch a revision.
Milwaukee definitely has an obvious approach to product introductions, and is less predictable when it comes to iterating.
Trevor
Due to the way I organise for work, my tools and materials tend to be arranged in ‘kits’ depending on what project I am scheduled to work on that day. So far I don’t have that much Packout stuff, some half width organisers, a couple of the non-Packout organisers, a Ridgid crate and lots of the egg crates that HD sells. The roller tool boxes are of no interest as the wheels are to small and not pneumatic (to able to pull over dirt surfaces). The Packout crates don’t seem to be stackable and are WAY overpriced, I can buy at least 5 of the black egg crates for the price.
I would like Milwaukee to bring out a Packout case like the Dewalt DWST08050, this would solve transport and field charging for me.
When the Toughbuilt system was announced there were several pieces that where of immediate interest; the half width crate, the half height compact tool box, potentially the hand truck. So Packout versions of those would be of interest.
It would be of interest (as someone else has commented) if there were some small USB powered tools, seems like a market that few have addressed other than some lighting products and the digital levels. It doesn’t have to be high torque as it would be mostly panel work, but a powered version of the 48-22-2915 maybe. Someone else referenced a sawzall that used hacksaw blades, they do have a hand tool that does, but a low power (usb) version would certainly be a useful tool to me.
One thing that none of the major tool vendors have shown (even if just proof of concept /trial /demo) is any sort of ‘Follow Me’ cart. Would be a major physical effort saver, especially if it was able to load/unload itself like the future Toughbuilt Advanced Transporter. For be very helpful for us guys in our 60’s. 😀
Trevor
A few more comments… I have a few DeWalt tools, but most of my tools are M12 & M18. One I would like in either format would be a Milwaukee version of the DCS571B.
Another item that none of the modular/stackable vendors make is a frame for custom tools… IE: a metal frame with the outside dimensions of a XL toolbox with the mounting cleats/feet top and bottom. You would then use the frame to mount equipment of choice in it and still be able to attach it to stack for transport. Couple of things I thought of for this frame would be… Reels for long extension cords, reels for hoses, bars for spools of wire. There would be lots of other possibilities.
AC
I would love to see a revision to the cordless miter saw. Power is sufficient but cut accuracy is crap, especially due to small gauges. I would jump on that if it could compete with some of the other corded options on the market like the boschs, makita, hitachi/metabo. The last one takes up a lotta space and the guards can be a pain but its light and accurate and just works
jon98
a tire inflator in a packout case, a short version of the insider ratchet, and maybe a compact USB charged ratchet
Droid
The dual battery chainsaw is on homedepot.ca https://www.homedepot.ca/product/milwaukee-tool-m18-fuel-20-inch-dual-battery-chainsaw-kit-w-2-forge-xc8-0-battery/1001877925 looks like a beast.
Big Richard
Nice, I saw the new M12 stubbys are out there on the interweb as well – https://www.reddit.com/r/MilwaukeeTool/comments/1doh11w/new_m12_fuel_stubby_impact_wrench/