Over in our post about the Bosch 18V Profactor cordless axial-glide miter saw, which only launched a few months ago, a reader provided a deal tip.
They wrote:
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Just a heads up, Woot has this on clearance for some reason at $450.
I took a look and… wow, Woot – an Amazon company – indeed has the Bosch 18V “Surgeon” GCM18V-12GDCN 12″ axial-glide-style cordless miter saw marked as on clearance. It’s discounted to $449.40, which is 40% lower than its regular price of $749.
The saw is being sold by Woot and fulfilled by Amazon.
Features & Specs
- 12″ blade size
- 4000 RPM
- Miter range: 52° left, 60° right
- Bevel range: 47° left and right
- Cutting capacity
- 4.7″ max depth
- 15.7″ max width
- Weighs 59.3 lbs
Price: $449.40 (bare tool)
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Shipping looks to be a flat $6 or free for Amazon Prime members. Deal is said to end in 7 days (~7/22/21) unless supplies sell out sooner.
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It’s unclear as to why Woot has Bosch’s newest miter saw listed as a clearance item, but a 40% discount means savings of $299.60.
This is for the bare tool version of the miter saw – you’ll need to add your own Bosch 18V battery and charger, preferably a Core18V/Profactor battery.
Jorn
Last month you could get this saw with a free 12AH battery kit.
It does seem like Bosch is putting up some really good deals together on their new products. I was able to pick up their new circular saw kit with a $75 off deal and got a free 8AH battery and charger.
I wonder if they’re just trying to saturate the market by offering lots of discounts on their new products? I’m enjoying it since I’m primarily Bosch tools anyway.
Thanks for posting this and keep the deals coming!
Rafe
Must not be selling. Stuff that is popular is raising in cost right now or you can’t even get it.
Jorn
You’re probably right.
I’d probably buy one myself if it had an AC adapter so you could use it as a corded saw.
I’m not a carpenter so I have no real need for a battery powered miter saw.
Serendipity
If I haven’t been out of work for over a month I would grab this. I have a 7.5 and would like a full size.
Stupid broken thumb.
Jim Felt
That’s not very “serendipitous”…
Sorry. Groan.
CountyCork
Very tempting.
Koko The Talking Ape
I’m just curious, but who needs a 12″ cordless slider that weighs 60 lbs? Timber framers? For molding and baseboards it seems like overkill. And it’s massive.
Andy
It’s really handy for working with 4×4’s. Sure, for baseboards only it’s kind of silly, but it would be nice for fence work.
Koko The Talking Ape
Makes sense! I guess that tells you what kind of work I know.
So it’s worth the weight and bulk over a circular saw?
Serendipity
Anyone who’s been on a job site where the electricians don’t show.
Koko The Talking Ape
Well, my question was not really “why use a cordless miter saw,” it was “why use a 60 lb, $700 (without discounts) cordless miter saw that can cut 4x4s.” I know there is a place for cordless miter saws. But for all the uses I’ve seen miter saws put to on jobsites, this beast is way overkill.
Perry points out that it would be useful for setting up fencing, where I guess you work out of your pickup. But then I’d expect people to use circular saws. Maybe slower and rougher because you’d probably have to cut two sides, but certainly cheaper and lighter.
Bob
This is exactly why I don’t buy the Dewalt Flexvolt 12” miter saw. Too bulky and heavy for the trim work I do 95% of the time. Sure wish they would come out with a 10” cordless model for US customers.
Big Richard
Ugghhh, I know. They have a Euro/Australian model, the DCS727. 10″ dual bevel, runs on one Flexvolt battery, so it is not have the AC power option. But still, I’d buy 3 if they became available today.
The Metabo HPT MultiVolt 10″ is a pretty sweet unit though. It has the AC option as well.
Bob
I came real close to buying the Metabo 10″ over the holidays but ultimately decided against it. I’m also in the same boat that if Dewalt released a 10″ model I would buy one right away and so would several co-workers.
Perry
If I were doing closet systems, this would be handy to have for cutting shelving.
Koko The Talking Ape
But there are plenty of smaller, cheaper sliders that can cut 10″ boards at 90 degrees. This guy can do 4x4s.
RI Guy
Only if you’re doing crown molding I’d say. Which is still out of style around here. Protection crosscut wide stuff in general. For 4x4s a 10” will do it minus an 1/8”-ish. Dress with a hand saw….or not.
My 12” Gets set up somewhere and watches the smaller saws get taken around the jobsite or up on the lift.
Also you can get a chain attachment for fence lines and post and beam if you want to move saw around. Not sure if they work with “worm drive look-alike” but I’d guess they will on the skill worm cordless. Haven’t tried one but looks legit.
Also the maffel gear and makita big blades will do it all of course.
Anyone tried the skill cordless wormy?
fred
We bought a Makita 5402NA (414mm = 16-5/16in.) saw when timber framing was the big thing in our neck of the woods. The guys told me that it was an unwieldy beast and that they had to fashion a sort of makeshift bench to use it properly. If the timber framing work had continued – we might have bit the bullet (cost-wise) switched over to trying a Mafell. As it was, the timber-framing craze turned out to be a flash in the pan for us – so saving money buying Makita instead of Mafell tools (Chain Mortiser, 2 big planes and this Saw) – was a good decision.
Serendipity
We were doing custom beam with a long time ago and we had a framer working with us, we bought a beam saw and I’ve never seen a grown man have so much fun with a saw. He bought it from us when the job was done.
A-A-Ron
I remember Bosch selling the corded version of this saw (axial glide) at Lowe’s about 8 or so years ago, and it always sold extremely well. Then it just sort of vanished (along with other Bosch miters) after a couple years and I never understood why. For a high-end model it definitely had a niche.
fred
The GCM12SD (12 inch) and smaller 10 inch version are still available:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bosch-15-Amp-12-in-Corded-Dual-Bevel-Sliding-Glide-Miter-Saw-with-60-Tooth-Saw-Blade-GCM12SD/202568455
This is my personal miter saw and we bought several for the business. Some early one that we bought had issues with the table and fence. I believe the issue was damage in shipping – as the original packaging was flimsy. It got better and those problems may have gone away. But I recommended buying the saw locally and then checking out fence alignment (90 degrees to table and co-planar side to side) and table dishing – before accepting it.
Some critics say that the glide mechanism gets out-of-true and will cot cut accurately along the length of the cut. I haven’t experienced that with my saw – nor did I hear any complaints about the this on the six that we had in use.
We also had different model Makita and Dewalt 10 and 12 inch miter saws in use – and they had their pluses and minuses.
I have my GCM12SD mounted on its gravity rise stand – and it sits in my 3-car garage. Hauling it around in my pickup is not exactly a fun task – and no one would say that this saw is lightweight or portable.
Plain grainy
Dual power would make it much better. Lots of tool items out of stock now.
Frank D
If this was HYBRID / DUAL POWER, I would order it asap.
I have this type of compact space saw in mind as my slider always needs an extra foot or so behind it, and it is inconvenient; but this would probably be >75% a stationary tool, and a power hungry one at that; for which I 100% prefer corded power.
As with other power hungry tools: give users the option to use wall power or go cordless, depending on the situation of the day/week/month.
Jorn
Agree 100%
Nathan
that deal is rather nice – if I had bosch battery system I might get on that. but like Fred said I’m a little hesitant to buy one sight unseen. with all the moving parts and accuracy needs I’m not so sure.
While I’ve heard of issues with accuracy of the glide (wobble side to side) I always wonder if it’s something easily fixed with some tightening of the joints or even some shims on the extreme end. Biggest detractor on this saw – lack of ac adapter.
the one place that really makes the dewalt flexvolt shine is that AC adapter ability. I have no real need for a cordless model
fantastic find though I guess I have to check woot more often
Julian Tracy
I had the 12” Bosch Glide saw. Actually adapted the Dewalt LED shadow light system to it – fully wired in with a switch. Though the saw had smooth action and the ability to hug a wall – it was heavy as all get out and an air craft carrier in size with NO god way to pick it up or carry it. As well – when I’d be doing the trickiest of cuts, the accuracy would be off and no matter how long I spent trying to adjust it, I could not tweak the accuracy to a near perfect level.
I was a fully system Bosch 18v Brute user and still own their 10” cordless miter saw which I modified to take my Makita batteries…. A great saw and the ideal of why you’d buy a cordless miter – small and fairly light.
These days I primarily user the Dewalt 20V cordless 7.5” saw unless I’m doing more complex trim work. That little Dewalt is a GEM. Easy to carry, maybe 21-22lbs, and the stock blade is very very good. I’ve framed entire basements with it as well as made crown molding fences and zero clearance inserts for it.
MM
2nding that 20V 7.5″ dewalt miter saw. That thing is great. I rarely use my big miter saw these days since that one is just so easy to carry and use and it handles 90% of my work. I bought one for one specific job expecting not to use it much afterward but that little guy punches well above its weight and has now become one of my most commonly used cordless tools. Accuracy and power are both surprising. And the stock blade is surprisingly good. I expected to replace it very quickly but I’m still using it, and I’ve used it for some oddball applications too. Last week I cut a lot of 1/4-inch thick reinforced ABS plastic sheeting for making instrument panels, including a lot of complex miters, and it did the job great leaving a nice surface finish and no chipping or melting.
Julian Tracy
That blade is good, but Fragile! Always keep a second blade, especially if you cut any plastics. At least 3-4 times I’ve thrown a tooth or bent the blade cutting some oddball material.
Naasir Ramji
@Julian Do you happen to have a vid or link to how you adapted the Dewalt LED shadow onto the Bosch 12″ Glide? I’ve thought about doing this *exact* thing in the past and have seen YouTube vids of folks retrofitting a LED sewing light, but all of these required an additional plug. Wiring it into the existing switch made the most sense to me as well. Would love to see the details on your solution!
Flotsam
Why they didn’t design this with hybrid power is just crazy.
Not surprised this is not selling.
Koko The Talking Ape
Yeah, that would make sense, right?
Josh
If it had hybrid power I’d have bought it already. For the price, cordless only is kind of a problem, especially since I only have regular bosch batteries, not profactor.
Mike
That glide system is smooth as butter
Jerry Romines
This sounds like a very good price for a Bosh miter saw
Plain grainy
This saw might sound heavy. But it’s certainly lighter than my 45 year old Sears radial arm saw these miter saws replaced.
fred
I had a Sears-Craftsman-Commercial 12 inch RAS bought in the early 1970’s – and we had a Dewalt 20 inch RAS in back corner of the cabinet shop. No one accuse either of being portable.
MM
Is it just me, or does anyone else miss the radial arm saw? If we’re talking most common construction tasks the miter chop saw does the job and is a lot more portable so I can see why it rules a jobsite. But in a workshop setting where portability doesn’t matter I think the RAS offers so much more: because you can adjust depth you now can use it for rabbets, slots, and dadoes. It is also practical to mount a vise under the saw allowing small workpieces to be easily and safely cut. And of course the average RAS has a much larger cut capacity than an average chop type saw.
fred
I think that the problem with the RAS was that it was oversold as a do-it-all tool (almost a Shopsmith) – but did best at crosscutting – and only when its arm (ways) were rock solid. Compared to that old Dewalt and even my old Craftsman Commercial – many of the RASs once made – got sloppy with use. Worse yet – in ripping applications they were often unsafe. If you were to look at how the arm on my Walker Turner radial arm drill press is built – you would get some education on how to build a quality new RAS. The Original Saw Company still makes a modern equivalent to the 20 inch Dewalt we had in the cabinet/woodshop. It sells for more than $10,000. Their 12 inch saw – an update for my old Craftsman-Commercial sells for $5000. A modern Radial Arm drill press to replace my old Walker Turner – would likely run me $20,000. Aside from the cost – these machines rely on mass and good machining to insure long lived accuracy.
As far as dados – I make repetitive trench cuts with my Bosch miter saw – by first setting the depth of cut and then setting up stops to set the beginning and end of the cut. To get closer to a flat bottom cut – I use an sacrificial piece of wood against the fence. I might use this for long pieces like tall (e.g. floor to ceiling) shelf standards – but generally cut most dados on the table saw. I could unearth my old radial arm saw and find its dado set for this – but the RAS is buried under a canvas cover behind other mostly unused tools,
MM
Funny you mention drill presses as mine is a 1940’s Carlton radial that weighs about 8500 lbs. Here is the video I asked the dealer to take for me before I forked over the cash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdRtx9TAGOQ
Mass and good machining sound perfect to me.
Plain grainy
I just used a wobble dado on mine. Was a quick change & left a fairly flat bottom on narrow dados. I did some ripping on mine, as it had the anti- kickback paws/ dogs. Was a better alternative to my fathers old table saw, which i never used.
Jared’s
I don’t understand people. Everyone says they want to get away from cords And go strictly with cordless. Now everyone saying on here if it had a cord they buy it. I’m confused someone please help.
Jorn
I’m not a contractor so I don’t have much of a need for such a large and expensive tool that is strictly cordless.
As a DIY guy I’d like to have a premium miter saw but it’s going to be set up in my workshop 99% of the time which is why I’d like the option to plug it in.
I could just buy a premium corded miter saw… but I would have bought this if it had the corded option.
Bosch could have reached a broader customer base with this tool if it had a corded option. Right now Bosch seems to be targeting contractors who work on job sites with no power who are willing to spend $900 for this saw with a 8AH battery.
Jason Allflex
Of course I’m now reading the comments. THIS IS A SCAM and I’m the idiot that fell for it. Super disappointed with Toolguyd as well. I hope he gets his cut reduced when a sale gets returned too. There is no mention this is cordless only tool and in my haste to jump on the deal I did not look closely enough. It’s my fault, I know Toolguyd gets a cut and free stuff but I usually think this site will avoid bad product or at least make mention this is a useless piece of garbage. THERE IS NO AC OPTION, battery only. There is no scenario this product makes any sense and is why it is being dumped on the market less the battery which can go back into Bosch inventory. I’m such an idiot. I did not even consider anyone would produce a battery only 12″ miter saw. Who would create such a stupid product? Well I get to go through the joy of lugging this piece of crap to the UPS store then deleting Toolguyd from my feed.
Stuart
I’m sorry you made a mistake, but please don’t try to blame me for it, that’s really unfair.
Aside from Dewalt FlexVolt 120V Max and Metabo MultiVolt, no other brand (to my knowledge) offers any AC options for their cordless miter saws. Hybrid-powered cordless miter saws are the rare exception.
In other words, a great majority of cordless miter saws are cordless-only miter saws. With hybrid cordless/AC-powered saws being the exception, they are usually explicitly described as such.
I use the terms “18V” and “cordless” throughout the post, including in the title, and Woot/Amazon/Bosch all use similar terminology. I also specified that the price was for the bare tool, and also included this at the end of the post:
I felt it necessary to ensure readers aren’t confused into thinking this is a kit when it’s just a bare tool without battery or charger.
As for avoiding bad products, I certainly try to. But just because this doesn’t suit your needs, that doesn’t mean it’s a “bad product.” I’m sorry, but you only have yourself to blame for making a baseless assumption. Mistakes happen – nobody’s perfect – and when it does, own up to it instead of misdirecting blame.
Adam
Milwaukee beat Bosch to the tool that “in no scenario makes any sense.”
…aside from those times when you have NO power
Jorn
I hope this is heavy satire/sarcasm.
Who the hell drops $500 without doing any research at all?