Dear Bosch,
As you of course know, we’re still working on our sponsorship projects, focusing on your 12V Max cordless power tools.
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I have been spending more time with my PS32 sample, and I have taken quite a liking towards it. Although I tested a PS32 review sample previously, I considered this one in a different light. Since it’s involved in the sponsored projects, I haven’t been considering it the same way I see review samples, I consider it to be *mine.*
So thank you for the cool new tool!
Comparing it to some other 12V-class cordless tools on my test bench, my Bosch PS32 is smaller, although the size difference isn’t quite as significant as it used to be. In addition to being smaller, it is considerably lighter.
It’s a very capable driver, but I tend to use it more for drilling tasks. Right now, I’m in a phase, where I mainly use impact drivers with electronic speed controls for fastening tasks. And so, I have been using my new Bosch PS32 more for drilling tasks.
I have been having trouble finding the perfect workflow for working with through dowels, and so I took some time today to do some experimenting. (My problem has been with trimming dowels flush, and I have started working with the new oscillating multi-tool to see if it can help.)
For my current and recent projects, I used my drill press almost exclusively for boring dowel holes. Why? Well, my past experiences didn’t go so well, drilling dowel holes by hand, at least on smaller workpieces.
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I do have some jigs, but they work better on work that I cannot bring to the drill press.
Whoa! I had a great time. My holes were precise, clean, and easy. One of my next test projects involves pushing the PS32 to its power limits, but I seem to have forgotten how nicely controlled and comfortable it can be for drilling smaller holes.
This drill is wonderful.
It’s not a review sample – was it? – and so I’ll consider it a gift. Sponsored project facilitator? It’s being used and will be shown off in the project coverage, but it’s not just a prop.
I had convinced myself that the Bosch 12V Max tools you supplied for this project were to be *mine*. But, to be honest, I wasn’t sure I would really feel that way.
Well, I just wanted to share that with you, and to say thanks! Now, if you excuse me, I have some quality time to spend with my new favorite 12V-class drill. We’re going to go make some dowel holes together!
So, thank you Bosch for the awesome new drill!
P.S. Dear ToolGuyd Reader:
Boy, I do love my new Bosch 12V Max brushless drill. I really wish you could see what’s so sweet about this tool.
It’s 6-1/2″ long, weighs just 2 lbs, has a 0-400/0-1300 RPM gearbox, features a 20+1 position clutch, and can deliver up to 179 in-lbs. Oh, and there’s also an LED worklight and a battery fuel gauge.
Hmm, that’s interesting… Amazon has a $20 off $100+ promo right now, and the Bosch PS32 kit is eligible.
How about a giveaway?
How to Enter: Leave a comment with a breakup letter to your old drill, a poem or haiku about what you hope will be your new Bosch PS32 drill, or simply tell me what you would do with a PS32 drill if you win one.
Also, fill out the address form:
Entry Period: The giveaway period will end 11:59pm ET Monday 7/23/2018.
Prize: A brand new Bosch PS32 brushless drill/driver kit, including the drill, (2) Li-ion battery packs, and a charger.
Winner Selection: (1) winner will be selected at random.
Rules: The winner must have a contiguous USA address. If your address form is not complete, I will select another winner.
Fulfillment: The prize will be ordered from Amazon (unless there’s an availability issue), and will be shipped directly to the winner. ToolGuyd is paying for the prize.
Why? To help balance things if I consider my PS32 to be a gift and personally owned. Also, because it’s a nice drill and I like sharing the joy of great tools.
Lastly, as a reminder, I have a sponsorship arrangement with Bosch at the moment. I’m still working on several testing and project posts. This post wasn’t planned as part of that arrangement.
Need one now? Buy your own kit, via Amazon. There is also a bare tool option.
Mike L
Ancient 18 volt
so heavy, and yet so weak
time to retire
Tom
What would I do? I’d go out and buy a matching Bosch impact and some batteries. Then, I would find a way to get rid of my Craftsman Nextec. I need an excuse to switch to a new battery platform, and this may just be it!
Mike M
My current drill is a 12V Porter Cable, and I badly need an upgrade. Firstly, I had the matching PC driver and it died after maybe 5 hours of use. Secondly, I can’t drill straight holes. It took me a while to realize that this is because the drill doesn’t grip bits securely; they rattle around in the chuck. I’ve had my eye out for a sale on the Milwaukee Fuel combo kit, but the Bosch would be just as nice.
Chris
??? the contest! I can’t wait to see what people come up with. Good luck guys n’ gals!
Reed Prince
Magnum Holeshooter
half inch wrist-ripping drill of doom
meet your new playmate
A W
An ode to my Nextec drill/driver:
When I first acquired you, Sears and Craftsman were all I knew. You were my first, you were my only, for many years, you were rather lonely. But when my Sears closed the third time, I found another I could make mine. An impact driver to pair with you, a spare battery and charger too. The Nextec line has served me well, but there are some problems, as I will tell. Your maker, Sears, is fading fast, her loyal customers left aghast. And since the time that we first met, I’ve learned of others I could get. A lighter, smaller, younger tool. A Bosch or maybe M12 FUEL, recommended by my new friend Stu. I really am quite over you.
Satch
Alas poor Urine er…I mean Urich…uh I mean Ridgid, I knew you well. Too well. You are uninspiring and it’s time to part. And no, it’s not me. It’s you.
Stephen
I would give it to my 4 year old daughter so I could include her in more of my household projects and develop her budding interest in the projects I do around the house. She already knows how to work several of my 18V Bosch tools, but they are far too big and powerful for her. A 12V would be the perfect size for her!
Andrew Q
Porter Cable chuck
plastic, no grip, drillbit slip
Bosch save me with luck
David E
I guess this would finally make me make a decision about which 12v system to invest in.
Eric
What makes this better than the M12 fuel drill? It’s just a little heavier, but has almost twice the power, and it comes in at a lower price. And at least in the US it’s on a platform with a much larger selection of tools.
Stuart
I like the M12 Fuel drill. But I like this one better. It’s lighter and does everything I’ve used the M12 Fuel for, but with a little less weight on my arm.
For the kinds of tasks that might require more power than this drill can deliver, I’d reach for an 18V-class tool.
They’re different tools, similar to a 16 oz claw hammer vs. 22 oz rip claw hammer.
Eric B
I currently have a 12v DW, but the Bosch looks very more ergonomically friendly and less bulky than my DW. It’d make things much easier for me as my DW is sometimes slightly too large or cumbersome for some tasks in tight places.
Yadda
With winter comes time.
Projects galore what to do?
Bosch PS32!
David
It may be time to hand my M12 brushed drill/driver in if a Bosch comes home instead. Small and powerful sounds compelling and newer technology would be welcome!
TonyT
A new PS32 wouldn’t replace anything, but my current Bosch lineup doesn’t include a traditional drill – and it’s all brushed, so I would love to try a brushless Bosch.
I do like the small size and quality feel of the Bosch 12V lineup. Yes, it’s a bit limited, but it does include some unique (Flexi-click, one is on its way) and high quality tools (PS2x Pocket Driver, OMT, JS120BN barrel grip jig saw, etc).
And it’s not all about specs. My Bosch FL12 light has a lower lumen rating than my $12 HD special, but in the real world, I like it better. And I do a lot of delicate driving (on electrical & electronic stuff), so the small size and 20-position clutch of the PS21 and Flexi-Click are great.
TonyT
Just to clarify: I would use the PS32 for drilling, mostly for making and fixing furniture and similar wood projects — it’s compact size would be a big plus, it would have plenty of power, and I wouldn’t be limited to hex shank bits. I wouldn’t use it for driving, because I have a PS21 and PS41, so it’s easier to use those.
Misak
Currently have an 18v brushless Ridgid and have always wanted something light to keep in the house for small jobs but can’t get myself to spend the money on it when my 18v system is functional. This would be a great and welcomed addition.
Richard Simon
I would gift my existing Bosch PS31 to someone that does not have a good set of cordless tools as a starting place. I have two chargers and 3 good batteries already so they would get a working set. I like these for lighter tasks like Ikea assembly. It was also a good choice for the Viking shield product where I needed to drill through 2 layers of wet rawhide and 1/2 inch plywood to sew the rawhide down. I find that I like the weight and form factor when brute force is not needed or desired. I have Dewalt 20 volt tools for that.
AlexV
Drilling in summer…
twenty volt, heavy as truck
Need to hit the gym
Randy Harper
Dear Craftsman 18V Drill:
You were decent when I got you over ten years ago. You’ve been used pretty hard, but you are very heavy and very bulky, and haven’t aged very well. More and more I find that I need you to fit in much smaller locations, and one battery has bit the dust, your other battery does not hold much charge. I think its time to hit the curb. I expect a Bosch PS32 will have nearly as much juice as you. So long Craftsman!
Noneya
Maybe it will, maybe it won’t have as much power. Your review is rather silly. Your comparing a 10yr old power tool to a brand new model. What does that even mean? Again with the apples to mother Russia comparrisions, you compare a 10yr old battery to a new one. To compare a 5yr battery to a new battery would be ignorant. That said, comparing a new battery to a 10yr battery? Well. I believe that’s just beyond measure and I highly suspect anyone who’s used power tools for real work would without a doubt agree. Btw. Craftsman has a newer 12v impact driver that competes with the Bosch version quite well. I own both. On a final note I’d like to add I have no brand loyalty. Considering there all ether A. Made from the same 1 out of 3 company’s that own them all, or B. There all made in the same place or places or damn near close enough. Dewallt uses this gear, rigid uses this clutch while Milwaukee uses this anvil blah blah blah. When shopping for power tools the only question that should be going through your mind is what color do you like.
Stuart
Entry conditions say:
“How to Enter: Leave a comment with a breakup letter to your old drill, a poem or haiku about what you hope will be your new Bosch PS32 drill, or simply tell me what you would do with a PS32 drill if you win one.”
So, he did just that.
Silly? Silly is better! I don’t want to read dozens of “me too” or “I wanna win” entry comments.
Framer joe
That is some DIY total BS…. clearly your not a pro ,so you could never understand the differences between companies or tools. You’ll never know what a tool can do, at what level or for how long….the list of guys sitting in a chair , with no tool knowledge or true experience typing ridiculous ignorant comments ,grows……
JML
Dear PS31:
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen goodbye…
Chad
hitachi, dewalt, portercable
life has ended
your fleamarket bound
a new contrivance has found me
my future is the PS32
fred
” (My problem has been with trimming dowels flush, and I have started working with the new oscillating multi-tool to see if it can help.)”
Try drilling the dowel hole a bit deeper than needed. Cut the dowel just long enough so as not to bottom out in the receiving hole. Then apply your glue – and tap the dowels into place using a piece of hard wood to keep them flush with the outside surface. Alternatively – use a clamp and a flat caul to push the dowels into position.
John804
This is not an entry for the give-away!
For cutting dowels flush, have you tried a cheap flush-cut hand saw or a block plane? I know that might be power tool heresy and doesn’t fit with a Bosch-focused project/article, but it might be worth a shot. My lack of skill with an oscillating tool would just result in a gouged or scratched project.
Or is there a good oscillating tool blade for flush cutting without damaging the project? Now I’m looking forward to the article.
fred
My prior comment and this one – are also not meant to be a contest entry.
As John804 says – the traditional approach was to use a sharp block plane to shave the bit of the dowel that stands proud, A paring chisel (some styles have a cranked-neck) can also be used.
Flush-cut Japanese-style saws (like the Veritas) might also be used – and since they have no set to their teeth that will leave a reasonably smooth surface. Some OMT – E-blades also come with no set to their teeth – so they should work if you hold the blade carefully.
Stuart
I used an Irwin pull saw, but getting the cuts as flush as possible ended up giving me some nearby surface marring.
My favorite Bosch oscillating tool blade didn’t work perfectly well, and the general purpose blade included in the kit didn’t work any better. I guess it’s time to get something like this, but maybe with a short straight blade rather than half round.
Maybe trimming and planing flush is the way to go.
fred
There are flush cut and “not so flush cut blades” . There are blades that do better with soft woods – and some that do better with hardwood like your oak. A sharp plane iron or adequately wide paring chisel should always keep you flush.
Or you could go over to an Arts and Crafts style – and leave the dowel heads proud with chamfered edges – but that would not work for drawer sides
Stuart
I’ll see how that works, thanks!
I’ve been cutting dowels off of 1/4″ oak dowel rod. The drilling depths were mostly consistent, but cut dowel lengths were not.
I sanded the surface after, but needed the dowels close to flush.
ktash
(I already entered the giveaway, so this is not an entry). Another way to avoid scoring is to use a slick very thin piece of plastic between the wood piece and the flush-cut saw. Drill a hole through it the size of the dowel, put it over the dowel, and saw away! I’ve used a cheap plastic flexible cutting board from Dollar Store, but any flat thin plastic will do. This will leave the dowel slightly proud and you can then sand it down. You can also use a router, especially one with a flush cutting jig. If you have a lot of them to do, this might be worth the setup time.
fred
@ktash
Lots of ways to do the same task!
Folks sometimes used a playing card as the spacer under the saw blade. But as you say – you still need to sand.
Using a router – or router table – as a planer is (as you say) another alternative – but sometimes I’ve seen tearout when the bit transitions from one grain orientation to another.
I guess I could suggest my Cantex lipping planer – but for Stuart this being a Bosch (not Lamello) tool demo that would be overkill
A W
This is a great conversation. Appreciate the insight with spacers and also router bits.
What would you guys recommend as a good set of chisels. I have an entry level set, and tried the DeWalt set made in the UK but they disappointed. I want something that can cut through end grain pine without spending $100.
fred
At the inexpensive end of the spectrum, Narex (Czech made) chisels seem to get good reviews.
https://www.finewoodworking.com/2008/08/18/best-bench-chisels
With all chisels – out of the box – you may need to flatten the backs, sharpen and hone the edge. How much of this you need to do depends on the maker. Learning how to flatten, sharpen and hone will be very useful – no matter what you buy.
fred
Thinking about the Bosch connection – there is that neat little 12V Bosch planer (made in Hungary) that they just introduced.
https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GHO12V-08N-Planer-Bare-Tool/dp/B07B6JPYFT
A W
Thanks Fred. You’re absolutely correct in needing to learn how to sharpen and hone. Thanks.
Would you get the Narex or a set of Stanley sweethearts?
fred
@ A W
Narex versus Stanley Sweetheart?
I have not used either – so couldn’t say.
Narex seems to sell several styles – different handles, different ferrules/bolsters etc. – but those I’ve seen (from just now perusing the internet) look to be tang chisels. The Stanley Sweethearts are socket chisels. Both styles have their proponents – sometimes based on different styles/types of work. I have many old chisels of both styles – and can’t say that I’d pick Narex versus Sweetheart based solely on the handle.
No quality wood chisel is meant to take the abuse of being pounded on with a claw hammer. A really sharp chisel and a light touch – either with the palm of your hand or a mallet tap is usually all that’s needed. Bolsters or caps on the top of tang chisel handles may help in preventing damage from an overzealous mallet blow – but learning how to sharpen and use a chisel properly is better.
Stuart
I like Narex. They could be better flattened, but they’re great for the money.
A&W
I’ve never had a 12v drill before but I can’t wait to stop hefting up my old 18v drill for overhead work!
MT_Noob
At first I was not going to sign up since I already have 2 of the brushed models. And I really like them, they are my go to for drilling and light/medium driving needs. Getting another one seems a bit greedy, but I’d love to try the brushless model. If I did win, then I’d probably hand down one of my current ones to a friend or someone that needs a proper tool. Well probably. Maybe… “possibly”.
: )
Or I might just keep it for myself to ensure it is properly appreciated.
: )
ABW
Has anyone had any trouble with these small drills fitting into a regular drill holster on a tool belt? I’m sure they fit but are they lose or hard to get out?
firefly
Roses are red, violets are blue. Bosch PS32 I luv you! 😀
j/k I already have this particular drill so not an entry for me.
Henry
Been rocking my 18v Bosch drill and driver combo for somewhere around 8 years now. The slimpack batteries that I have for them don’t have much runtime left in them anymore, and I often find myself wishing I had something lighter to do the little jobs that don’t require a lot of power. I’ve been thinking of getting a 12v set for the last y ear, and love the 18v Bosch. Would love to be able to try out this 12v (and brushless, to boot).
Thanks for the giveaway!
Michael
Never had a Bosch power tool before. It would be nice to try one
Hans Mulder
I’ve been rocking back and forth
Either this or going Red
Have Blue in 18 volt
But wanted 12 volt instead
…
This might make the decision very very easy
Thomas
To my lovely Dewalt,
You’ve served me well these many years. Countless shelves and benches, even helped build our friends house. But my projects have grown smaller and your potential is left unused. Good bye my friend, it’s not you, it’s me.
Frank D
I admit, I am guilty.
I have been seeing more and more people use cordless gear 1/2 to 1/4 the size of my 24v and 18v Ridgid stuff … and so I have secretly been lusting after some smaller powertools like the 12v Milwaukee and Bosch lines. My wife does not understand it … but I’m ready to part ways with big Ridgid and move forward with smaller powertools as my primary kit. Downsize. Work smarter, tackle confined spaces with ease, less strain on the shoulders, …
Joel
Dear Yellow, It’s time to pass you along to another fellow. It’s hard to imagine it’s true. My new love is blue.
Chris
Aside from the fact that you’re breaking up with your Dewalt, this is a good poem.
Trocar
I’m leaving you 19.2v Craftsman. We had good times together, built a lot of fun things but I no longer feel I can trust you through an entire job as your batteries grow weaker with each charge. I’m sure someone will find you attractive in the bargain bin at a resale shop but you have lost your elegance for me.
Scott K
This is just to say:
I have wished for
this Bosch
that is now a giveaway
and which
you were probably
saving
for a project
choose me
it is enticing
so light
and so capable
Gordon
I’ve always been a Teal guy, but the batteries are too dead to get through a task now. Given that 99% of my work involves drilling holes smaller than 1/2in and driving screws smaller than 2in, I think the smaller Bosch 12v is the better fit.
First thing I would do it buy some more 12v tools and batteries.
Then I would probably get to the backlog of repairs and furniture on the honey-do list. maybe.
Neil B
Dear DCD996, You magnificent beast. If only you weren’t so freaking heavy…
Mr. Potato Wedge
I love you dearly…
But maybe another is better?
I must find out for myself…
So sorry.
Flotsam
I have an old 12v NiCd this shall replace in daily household duties. The NiCd batteries will be disposed of responsibly I promise.
DML
This would be a great drill to throw in my tool “go bag” since it can like do 90% of the jobs at probably half the weight of the 18V tool I lug around now.
John Hooper
I live in Thailand, the 51st state of the union…..so I qualify yes???
All jokes aside, I’ve had more Bosch electric tools than any other brand.
My first electric shock came from an old alloy Bosch electric drill when I was 15 years old!
George
Well, I can understand you. I have the impact version for 4 years now, and is the only drill I use 99,9% of the time. Small and powerful, it can drill even in concrete.
And I am using still the original battery!
Craig Wiener
It will replace my extremely old, worn out DeWalt drill. I will use it for everything
Joseph
Farewell you old handcrank, your power was weak, your accuracy stank. When I receive this new Bosch, into the garbage you I will toss. And welcome the tool, its drive while dancing like a fool.
Matthew
It’s time to make sure little brother has a good drill on hand. So he can have the brushed model (B&D) and I’ll keep the brushless.
Hilton
I would definitely use it to get my kid into woodworking.
ktash
Family member separated from spouse,
He took the drills, she kept the house,
Though she took over payments for it,
So send her Bosch brushed drill/driver kit,
When I go see her there’s work to be done
Then I will visit my old Bosch PS 31.
kunhan
sorry ryobi 18v,
its time to get something younger, thinner, and prettier
RC Ward
Have to say your review is a little tainted since you are getting paid to do it and getting free tools. Just saying.
ktash
Did you read to the very end of his post, the part where he says he’s giving away a Bosch 32 tool kit for free? He got free tools and then paid out-of-pocket for an equivalent kit to give away. Why else would the comments all be love poems to drills? 😉
So, in a sense, he bought his own tools. He could have given away the ones he’s already used and kept the new ones for himself. Also, he notes that this post is not part of the paid arrangement.
(I already entered the giveaway, so this post is not intended as an entry).
Corey
Lol This wasn’t even a review, super-cheif. Just sayin.
Edgar M.
I’ll probably try it as my daily driver to replace my 20v max which is usually overkill for my electrician’s need.
Gray
I would use it for lots of projects. The first would be hanging My kitchen cabinet doors.
Al
Red, meet blue.
Cr8on
I will say to you
I rarely write any haiku
I thank you toolguyd
Diamond Dave
I love my Milwaukee M12 Brushless Drill. If you want that honor Bosch, you must prove your better.
KeithInKC
I would replace an older craftsman 18v set with it.
Ed Sichler
B&D 14.4 for many years you have carried the day
But alas you seem to have lost your power ways
So I must find someone to carry the new days
And this Bosch PS32 giveaway is clearly the way
Avi
Great giveaway, but I’m just not ready to break up with my m18 just yet
Framer joe
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the king’s horses and
All the king’s men
Couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty together again…unless
They had the Bosch PS32 drill ,,things could have been different ?
Brian M
Dear Milwaukee,
You’ve ignored my request for a lighter, more compact drill/driver and insisted that a bigger hammer will do the job better than finesse. This relationship has become a reoccurring theme, I submit to your will and give you everything(money) but you don’t listen to my needs. There’s someone else, they’re German, the Germans are known for listening to the wants of the people and their caring ways. I’m soo sorry but it’s aBosch to get real.
Erik
My Best Blogger’s Drill
You’re always drilling down the street
With your suede blue case
And every new boy that you meet
He doesn’t know the real surprise
(Here she comes again)
When she’s drilling ‘neath my project’s case
Ooh, she’ll make you flip
(Here she comes again>
When she’s driving ‘nside my project’s drawer frame
I kinda like the way she maneuvers
She’s my best blogger’s drill
Eric
Bosch quality drill
You would work so well with my
PS-21a
Tyler
PS31, how I have missed thee since we were separated by the hands of another with ill intent. Fear not for me, your younger brother named PS32 shall fill the gap in my workflow that your absence has left.
Tim Butterfield
I would use it to swap out the electrical outlets in my new house for child proof ones. And use it as an excuse to buy a 12v powered heated jacket. As usual, keep up the great work, and thanks for the giveaway!
But it’s me!
Give it to my mom so she has a decent, lightweight driver.
Sb223
I have been a die hard Milwaukee guy for years. Within the last year or so I decided to give Bosch a try because honestly I liked the looks and compactness of them. I bought the Bosch 12 volt brushless impact as well as the brushless 1/4” driver, I’ve been eyeing the drill to go along with those. I must say I’m very pleased with Bosch’s brushless 12V lineup. I’m sure the drill wouldn’t disappoint.
Jesse Davila
Dear 18V Nicad Drill,
I’m tired of carrying you for so many years and when I seldom need you, you are not there for me. I’ve had enough! It’s time to move on, I hope you understand that I need someone that will be there for me. This relationship is over!
docjavadude
Makita is dead
So many projects to do
Please pick me for Bosch
Mahalo
Yellow drill brushes
You tend to drain batteries
Time to go brushless
Matt Manges
I’d love to have something a lot more portable for working around the house than my big 18v.
ACC
My dearest Bosch drill
I need you in my life soon
I have holes to drill
Marc
As I get older lighter but still capable tools are on my wish list. This sounds like a perfect fit.
David R
I have 12V Milwaukee Fuel stuff. I like it a lot. Whenever I walk past the Bosch stuff I kind of wish I’d gone that direction. This one may push me to move from red to blue.
DimDom
Oh new Bosch drill
I’ve got from ToolGuyd
Brushes can’t be seen
Charlie Magocs
My darling Miss Yellow,
You seem so distant lately. At one time we went every where and did everything together. What happened ? Is it because since I started running with the Blue crowd I have mostly ignored you ? I’m so sorry, but perhaps it’s time to go our separate ways.
Thomas Walpole
PS31 it’s time for you and your brushes to go.
Eric H
Dear Mr. Neon Green,
I appreciate the assistance you have provided as I have navigated the rocky waters of home ownership. You and your 5 friends have been very helpful over the years. However, with your character flaw of a tilted head, I am afraid you will be relegated to simple duties such as mixing. I suppose it is my fault for not realizing you do not having a concentric chuck and motor, but I cannot deal with you ruining the heads of any more fasteners. I encourage you to find additional work as a borrowed drill. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Pete
Still no belt clip… come on bosch! At least have the option!
David Zeller
Dear Porter Cable,
You were my first (12V). I loved you so. Until I broke your chuck. Just tightening; I’m not that strong. I wanted to to clamp down hard; you failed. I want to be hard. It’s time to move on and try another…
Jimmy D
I sell tools for a living but still do not have any battery tools of my own!
bioffe
There is no star on bottom of my drill. No matching star anywhere else.
Jason S.
I tried to write this as a semi-eulogy to Craftsman…
I would like to replace all of my Craftsman 12v Nextec line with Bosch. I’ve read so many great reviews about both the Bosch and Milwaukee 12v lines of tools, but I’m 1/2 German, so I am leaning towards Bosch. My Craftsman line has done me well (I own 5 of their 12v tools). The impact driver is still a small beast, and their oscillating tool is good enough, but their drill is under-powered and basically crap. Also, I don’t think the Nextec line really exists anymore. So, my ties to Sears and Craftsman that served my dad and myself so well for such a long period of time are soon to be replaced. The only Bosch tools that I own are their drill bits (masonry, spade, and jog saw blades), but I am very interested in beginning to acquire this line of tools. This opportunity would be a great start. Thanks for the consideration.
Kdougherty
Don’t quite have the creativity to come up with a clever poem. But I’d always be glad to receive free tools. It’s been awhile since I’ve used Bosch’s 12v drills and I’d like to compare them to Milwaukee.
Thanks
Tomas Krynsky
I love my old DeWalt
Yes I do
But a switch to Bosch
I’ll love you too
Patrick
Dear ryobi
We have been through thick and thin but you have always defied the odds, you always pushed through and got me through many projects. It’s time to send to a better place… goodbye
If I won this drill It would replace my primary drill which was an old ryobi brushed drill. It had seen better days but seems to never die.
Ryan
It’s time for my girlfriend to assemble my IKEA furniture by her own
Redcastle
With the exception of the OMT (There were stories that it devoured batteries), the router, the jigsaw and the planer I have a full set of the Bosch 12v tools orginally purchased because I liked the power to weight ratio. So I was in agreement with the comments until I read that you are using an impact driver for almost all driving tasks. Does this mean you do not do much driving into wood. One of my best site managers and I am sure not by coincidence a craftsman carpenter banned anyone working with wood on site from using an impact driver. His justification was that was not the purpose of the tool and I remembered that my original impact driver (manual version) was purchased from a motor vehicle tool supplier and I still use it and my Bosch 12v impact driver to loosen nuts, etc. I subsequently found a high reverse correlation between the quality of the finish of a carpenter’s work and his use of the power tool equivalent of a lump hammer. This is a cross generational truth not some old git whinge. As someone based in Europe I do not think I qualify for your giveaway.
TonyT
I’m curious to hear what others say about using impact drivers in wood.
As noted, I already have the PS21 1/4″ hex pocket driver, so I would use that for driving since it’s a lot quicker to switch bits than a drill/driver with chuck. (And USPS should be delivering the Flexi-Click today, and I’ve just put the Bosch planer on my wish list….)
Redcastle
I have had the Flexi click for a while and would be interested to hear your views. I have a Milwaukee 12v jigsaw and SDS drill (which is excellent) so the Milwaukee multi head 12v was an option for me however weight and ease of use saw the Bosch win. Do people in the USA use the expression curate’s egg?
TonyT
My initial impressions of the Flexi-Click are quite positive. It seems well built, and it’s easy to attach the various options. I also showed it to our machinist; he was impressed, but more interested in the 18V version. My final price ($135 with tax & shipping) was very reasonable considering I’ve been wanting a right angle drill and hex driver for a while – and now I also have an offset driver and 2 more batteries 🙂
However, it will be a few months before I have used it enough to have an informed opinion. A lot of my expected usage will be atypical: I want to see how well it works for electrical panel work, where it’s hard to get almost any kind of electric screwdriver to fit (and the clutch will be on one of lowest settings). And I hope to have time to do a few small wood projects where it might be handy.
Matt Jones
IMO impact drivers have a place in wood, but it’s sinking lag screws or long screws mostly. I’ll use them with structural screws a lot, but if they’re to be seen, an impact driver shouldn’t touch a fastener.
fred
Now retired – sold up my interests in a few businesses – I do mostly hobbyist furniture building and the odd job around the houses (mine and the kids.)
Impact drivers are time savers for construction projects – use with Lags and things like Spax construction screws.
I have a 7/16 hex drive M18 that was a godsend for a batch of hundreds-of- feet-from-the-house landscape projects my wife dreamed up fro my retirement chores. I would not think of using it or my 1/4 hex impact drivers for most woodworking projects.
I much prefer using a M12 2401-20 non-impact driver that has finer control for hidden screws – and hand drive things like brass hardware screws.
My take on doing furniture – especially pieces that are meant to have the look of vintage ones – is that screws (if appropriately used at all) can’t have drive styles (e.g. Phillips or Robertson) that are anachronistic.
I find that well fitting “cabinet-maker” or sometimes “gunsmith” hand screwdrivers are the most appropriate tools for driving slotted screws with less chance for slippage and damage to the slot.
TonyT
In the past, I was very frustrated using cheap drill/drivers and cheap screwdrivers for driving and fastening (e.g. assembling furniture). I still have a lot to learn, but when I started using an impact driver it was amazingly better.
I still love my Wiha screwdrivers; quality hand tools are still irreplaceable for the feedback and control they give (and I need to get some more! Maybe try Wera…). Also, a lot of times I have to turn fasteners in difficult locations, so other tools (including multi-bit hex screw drivers, let alone big electric drivers) simply don’t fit. But over use of hand tools can also cause RSI, so I’ve been trying to experiment to see what I can do with power tools.
I liked the Milwaukee pocket drivers such as the 2401 you mentioned, but ended up going blue. (I thought about Makita CXT, but wanted the shortest tool, so its slide on battery crossed it off). BTW, so far I haven’t found any 18V non-impact hex drivers.
I’m still trying to figure out where best to use what. So far my list is something like this:
— Hand tools are great for feel, and final assembly, but are tough on your body if you have to do a lot
— Hex drivers are great for quick bit change, but have more play than drills
— Impact drivers are good for demanding driving (like driving screws into particle board), but could mess up visible fasteners
— Pocket drivers are good for fasteners and more delicate driving, but still don’t provide the feedback of hand tools
Maybe one could combine, e.g. use driver most of the way, and do final tightening by hand
JoshB
Have the PS31, want to upgrade to the brushless model. This is the go-to tool in my household, so it’ll get used for all manner of DIY projects… hanging pictures, installing cabinets, name it I’m sure this tool can do it.
Maverick
I really need this for my toolshed repair project.
Matt Jones
I’ve long regretted getting the 1/4″ driver instead of the original 3/8″ chuck drill for my Bosch line. I love the Bosch tools I own for most projects, but having to have special drill bits or grab my 18v for drilling projects has been a big downside. This would be a nice way to remedy that (and save me from my wife’s death glare when one of these eventually decides to show up… Not that I know how that could happen…).
Patrick McIntyre
I used my ps31 today. Need to upgrade? No way.
Redcastle
Fred having read many of your comments on here you would be very comfortable in the company of the individuals I
Redcastle
Continuation of my previous post.
I referred to. The correct alignment of hinge screws finished using a hand screwdriver and as you said correctly reflecting the piece and decor were also not unknown topics of conversation. I have a set of gunsmith’s screwdrivers and after my father complained about the quality of screwdrivers and bits bought him a Lie Neilson multi tip which at the time was available in the UK. He never commented on it however I noticed it became a fixture on his desk. A beautifully made hand tool can in my opinion be a work of art however it must also be true to its function.
fred
@ Redcastle
Thanks
Your ‘”curate’s egg reference ” is a bit arcane for this side of the pond.
We do sometimes use the expression “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear” – which by extension would suggest that once you’ve turned something into a “sow’s ear” it can not then be made back into a “silk purse”
Perhaps its a lament of old age – but I still get upset with the attitude of some workers that poor work can be “good-enough” or that minor imperfections don’t count. I did well over the years building and running businesses that were seldom – if ever the “low bidder” – but strived to produce quality work exceeding customer expectations. In our remodeling business – we often came in to re-do work done by other so-called professionals – whom I thought might subscribe to the adage “hammer it to fit and paint it to match.”
Redcastle
Fred
You were fortunate to find clients prepared to pay for a good job most claim they will do so right up to the point where they have to confirm the order for work to commence at which point they go for the cheapest price.
The individuals I was referring to were in their early to late thirties. The only common denominator I could see was that they were all second generation in their trades with one being third generation but that could just be coincidence.
I share your view regarding “hammer it to fit and paint it to match”.
I have had pleasure of living for the last thirty four years in a house built in 1910 and until two years ago was still the new boy on the block (estate agents refer to them as destination properties in that when people buy them they only leave feet first). The father in law of the lady I purchased the property from had lived in the area when the houses were being built and told her of the small army of craftsmen who without the benefit of power tools created from raw stock the ten inch high sectional skirting boards, the unique pattern picture rails, architraves and other mouldings all of which matched and those that survived (her husband started “modernising” the property before he died in the 1970s) are still in perfect condition. I like to think of the individuals i referred to as the spiritual successors of those men who built my home. I do not think the past was necessarily a better time but do think it can set a standard for young people entering the business to aim for.
fred
I can not take credit for all of our success. I had good partners – and we seemed to complement one another. We started – by working for one of the businesses and then buying it and a sister business. Then – when we decided that we needed to expand – so as to have a more complete solution to offer our customers – as well as some diversity when markets changed – we bought out other successful business rather than trying to grow what we had. What I found over the years is that you are only as great as your last job – and that can only be great if you have the workforce that you train, encourage and reward to make it so.
While I’ve never lived in one (or anything close) , I was pleased that we were called to work on what have been called “Gold Coast mansions.” The largest of these had over 100,000 square feet of living space – and is credited as being the second largest private home in the US. Quite a number of these “Great Gatsby Era Mansions” still survive – although today many have a more egalitarian usage as part of public spaces and museums.
TonyT
I like working in automation – we have a manual machine shop with an experienced machinist, and I love seeing the results – machined and ground precision metal parts (we don’t have enough consistent volume to justify a CNC, so those are farmed out). I can choose components based on value, not saving a nickel up front. Finally, although we do have to ship and thus can’t wait until everything is absolutely perfect, we do care about shipping machines that work well, and will delay delivery to re-do if a machine isn’t working right.
It sounds like many of your customers found out the hard way that a cheap initial price often isn’t the least expensive in the long run.
MV
I would use it for my DIY home improvement projects. Thank you for the opportunity.
Hubert Osborn
It would go good with my 12 volt Bosch screw driver.
Joe
Bad ol 9v black and decker
Such a project wrecker
High maintenance although not posh
Wish i cud replace u with bosch
Ben
I wish they had a 12v blower as well. I’m looking for a small blower, drill and driver for camping.