ToolGuyd

Tool Reviews, New Tool Previews, Best Tool Guides, Tool Deals, and More!

  • New Tools
  • Reviews
  • Guides
    • Best Cordless Power Tool Brand
    • Tool Brands: Who Owns What?
    • Best Cordless Drills (2021)
    • Dewalt UWO Explained
    • Where to Buy Tools
    • Best Tool Kit Upgrades
    • Best Extension Cord Size
    • Best Tape Measure
    • Best Safety Gear
    • Best Precision Screwdrivers
    • Best Tool Brands in Every Category
    • Ultimate Tool Gift Guide
    • More Buying Guides
  • Hand Tools
    • Bit Holders & Drivers
    • EDC, Pocket, & Multitools
    • Electrical Tools
    • Flashlights & Worklights
    • Knives
    • Mechanics’ Tools
    • Pliers
    • Screwdrivers
    • Sockets & Drive Tools
    • Wrenches
    • All Hand Tools
  • Power Tools
    • Accessories
    • Cordless
    • Drills & Drivers
    • Oscillating Tools
    • Saws
    • Woodworking Tools
    • All Power Tools
  • Brands
    • Bosch
    • Craftsman
    • Dewalt
    • Makita
    • Milwaukee
    • Ryobi
    • All Brands
  • USA-Made
  • Deals
ToolGuyd > Power Tools > Cordless > Dewalt Updated their 20V Max Cordless Circular Saw

Dewalt Updated their 20V Max Cordless Circular Saw

Apr 6, 2017 Stuart 21 Comments

If you buy something through our links, ToolGuyd might earn an affiliate commission.

In a comment to our post about a new Dewalt 20V Max brushless circular saw that’s on the way to market, Bill shared something interesting.

He had noticed that a new DCS391 performed better than an older one, and that it had higher speed specification.

Advertisement

Bill wrote:

I went to Lowes and picked up a new DCS391 and found it to be a much better performing tool than my older unit at home. It wasn’t until I returned home and compared both tools did I discover that my older unit has a Type-1, 3700/min printed on the label and the new one has Type-3, 5150/min.

Both tools are otherwise very close in outward appearance and features, including the 3D magnesium base. Does Dewalt do this with other tools? I can’t find mention of the difference between the two on Dewalt’s website. Was there ever a Type-2?

We asked Dewalt about this, and they said:

In June of 2015 we made an improvement to the motor to increase the tool’s performance.

This is not the first time we’ve seen improvements made to current Dewalt power tools. Their DW745 was updated a few years ago with a greater ripping capacity, and I am aware of revisions to Dewalt’s miter saws.

Advertisement

*Thumbs up* Dewalt. It’s good to see that improvements are sometimes made in a product’s lifetime, and that they’re not just held back for later-on models.

Buy Now(via Amazon)

Related posts:

No related posts.

Sections: Cordless, Reader Question, Saws, Woodworking Tags: cordless circular saws, Dewalt 20V MaxMore from: Dewalt

« Milwaukee USA Factory Tour: How a Typical Sawzall Blade is Made
New Woodpeckers Stainless Steel and Aluminum Squares (One Time Tool) »

21 Comments

  1. Hang Fire

    Apr 6, 2017

    Dewalt’s Marketing department slept through that one. They should have provided Stuart a new one immediately.

    Really.

    But Kudos to Dewalt Engineering and Production for constant improvement. I love my Bosch cordless saw, I have no need to upgrade, but things like this is why Dewalt rules so much of the cordless market (and Milwaukee for that matter).

    Reply
  2. Nathan

    Apr 6, 2017

    They might should advertise that a bit more

    Reply
  3. Travis Collins

    Apr 6, 2017

    I was told at one point the motor RPM was increased due to the advent of higher capacity batteries that had been released (ie. 5.0ah). With the higher capacity batteries the motor could spin faster for longer giving more power for cuts.

    While this has proven to be slightly true, I bet they did tweak the motor to perform better with the improved batteries that were hitting the market in 2015.

    Reply
    • Stuart

      Apr 6, 2017

      That would make sense. A lot of users are still rocking 3.0Ah battery packs, but I suppose there are more options for improved runtime.

      Need more runtime, buy a higher capacity battery pack. Need faster cutting performance? You need to look for a better tool.

      Reply
  4. John Blair

    Apr 6, 2017

    Since I do this for a living, I will attempt to explain what went on at Dewalt when they decided not to announce the change. Imagine Dilbert and the pointy haired boss talking.
    Person 1: “This is so much better, we should tell everyone and release it as a new model.”
    Person 2: “Do you have any idea how many units we have of the slower motor in the channel? Do you know how many people will return ones they’ve just bought or wont buy one because its slower? How much are we going to have to mark down the slower ones to keep the big box stores happy?”
    Person 1: “I’ve got a great idea, lets not announce a specification change… we will make a silent running change and just flush the old units through the channel. At some point we will announce the change.”
    (time passes – Person 1 and Person 2 both forget about the spec change because they are deep in the throws of arguing that the shade of Yellow on the new boxes doesn’t quite match the corporate standard)

    Reply
    • Stuart

      Apr 6, 2017

      I have not once ever been notified of a rolling product improvement.

      Milwaukee improved their tubing cutter’s strength and gave it a new model number, but no announcement.

      Dewalt makes small changes and has not one announced them.

      Irwin changed their adjustable pliers over the years and has not announced any of the differences.

      It could be that they don’t want to upset current users or recent buyers, or that they don’t see these small changes as news-worthy.

      Reply
      • jtr165

        Apr 6, 2017

        from a marketing standpoint; almost guarantee it’s what John Blair said…although, I doubt it has anything to do with consumers, more to do with the retailers that hold inventory. They’re the ones that will attempt to exchange them if a public announcement is made, as they’re the ones that have to explain why the two models cost the same otherwise.

        or discount them, but the retailers weren’t given the wholesale discount to begin with…and it just gets messy.

        This is common in almost any type of electronic. Updates are made, and legally there has to be some sku # changes to reflect that, but manfucturers lobbied enough to make it that there doesn’t have to be enough transparency that ‘everyone’ knows about it before purchase. Not complaining, just saying it’s very much part of most electronic businesses. The good news is that in most cases a simple return and exchange isn’t all that difficult if still within a certain window. Otherwise, it’s just a matter of accepting that things you buy get replaced with better versions all the time haha.

        Reply
  5. Graham Howe

    Apr 6, 2017

    That timing is interesting, I ordered the bare tool model, DCS391B from Lowes in Canada on 6/6/15 and it says Type 3 on the label. It is possible of course that these items turn over very quickly, but I would image the enhancement must have been made some time before June 2015.

    Reply
  6. Mike

    Apr 6, 2017

    I knew about this for a long time, my friend had the original when they first came out, and bought mine last year and I noticed mine had more power, they looked on the tool mine said 5125 rpm his said 3700 rpm my Dewalt is as powerful as the brushless Milwaukee, it might not get as many cuts but power wise they cut about the same speed, when it comes to saws brushless doesn’t make that big of a difference not like drills and impact driver where you get a 40 to 50 % increase in runtime with a saw you get about 10% increase

    Reply
  7. Cr8on

    Apr 6, 2017

    Huh… I’ll check mine, got it last summer, I hadn’t noticed if it was “improved” because I’ve never used another one. While obviously not as strong as a 15 amp corded saw it’s still my primary use saw, my only complaint is runtime.

    Reply
    • Cr8on

      Apr 6, 2017

      Neato it’s a type 3, 5150 rpm.

      Reply
  8. Bill

    Apr 6, 2017

    I’m the guy, Bill, who posted the initial comment Stuart refers to. I agree with most of the comments above and I also think it was most likely a marketing decision not to tout this tool improvement. But, at an almost 40% increase in RPM from the Type-1 to the Type-3 I can attest to the much improved cutting performance. I was never very impressed with the rather anemic cutting speed of my first Type-1 version of this tool but now that I have the Type-3 I’m sure I will use it more often.
    More importantly, this experience has influenced my next buying decision on a cordless 7-1/4″ circular saw. I am leaning towards the Dewalt Flexvolt saw because it spins at 5800 rpm, about 16% higher than the Milwaukee M18 Fuel’s 5000 rpm. I’m assuming the Flexvolt will also spin higher than the yet to be released Dewalt 20v max 7-1/4″ circular saw.

    Reply
    • Eric

      Apr 6, 2017

      The new 7 1/4″ 20v saw runs at 5200RPM

      https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-20-Volt-7-1-4-in-Cordless-Circular-Saw-Brake-0/1000209865

      Reply
  9. Sean S

    Apr 6, 2017

    So if I don’t have a cordless circular saw at the moment, is the 60v Max still a better choice than the updated 20v?

    I know the benefits of 60v, but do you really think it’s worth it for the cost difference over the 20v?

    Reply
    • Stuart

      Apr 6, 2017

      Tough question.

      A new brushless 20V Max circular saw is on the way.

      If all 3 were available now, I’d lean towards the new 20V Max, with the 60V Max FlexVolt a very close second pick. This 20V Max model is great, and a better value for more casual users who don’t need the 7-1/4″ blade size.

      Reply
  10. Eric

    Apr 6, 2017

    I own both the 60v and 20v cordless saws. By far the 60 is the way to go it runs all day on one battery cutting siding. And you will have to switch batteries at lunchtime if you are just framing up a small building or pole shed.

    Reply
  11. Kevin

    Apr 7, 2017

    Mine says type 2, 5250 rpm.

    Reply
    • Bill

      Apr 7, 2017

      Very interesting that they decided to down grade the rpm, if only slightly, from the Type-2 and release it as a Type-3. While it’s impossible to know for sure it sounds more like a marketing decision vs. an engineering call.

      Reply
      • Jon

        Apr 7, 2017

        It’s almost certainly not a marketing decision as it was never “marketed” as an upgrade or feature.

        The RPM listed on tools is the “no-load speed” which has literally no relationship with the overall power of the saw. The size, efficiency and wattage of the motor would tell you more than knowing the no-load RPM.

        For example a Dyson vacuum has a motor that spins over 100,000 RPM and meanwhile a large diesel engine in an ocean liner only spins at 1,800 RPM but there is no question which has more power.

        Reply
  12. Hal

    May 12, 2019

    When will the new Dewalt brushless 6 1/2″ battery saw be available,? I have held off purchasing another battery saw or have considered others but for now waiting until a new brushless 6 1/2″ saw is FINALLY released by Dewalt . Thanks

    Reply
    • Stuart

      May 12, 2019

      6-1/2″ has a brushed motor, 7-1/4″ is brushless.

      Reply

Leave a Reply to Stuart Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

  • Email
  • Facebook
  • Instagram
  • YouTube

Newsletter

Sign up to receive the latest tool news.

Recent Comments

  • Shauna on These Mini Stackable Organizer Tool Boxes Look Better than Dewalt’s: “Was thinking same thing”
  • Stuart on Home Depot Follows July 4th with New Tool Deals (7/5/25): “The one-day deals ended yesterday, but there are bound to be more.”
  • Frederick Loving on Home Depot Follows July 4th with New Tool Deals (7/5/25): “Thought you said you had rigid tools on sale I didn’t see any rigid nothing and rigid the better brand…”
  • Corie McDaniel on No Good News for Dewalt Xtreme Cordless Power Tool Fans: “Milwaukee has one version of it and it works really extremely well I’ve been very happy with it”
  • Scott on Is this Craftsman Mechanics Tool Set Deal on Amazon a Good Buy?: “I think i have this one, Versastack 262 (nice locking latch on top corner). I’ve got tool sets coming out…”
  • Mel on Woodpeckers Launched an Improved Freehand Router Guard: “I saw the ad for Version 2.0 last week and was very excited, especially to reduce dust, but reading the…”

Recent Posts

  • Home Depot Follows July 4th with New Tool Deals (7/5/25)
  • New at Lowe's: Rainbow Kobalt Hex Keys
  • Patent Dispute Over Dewalt Construction Jack has been Settled
  • Dewalt Launched a New 20V Atomic Cordless Hammer Drill Kit
  • Let's Talk About Amazon's USB-Charged Cordless Mini Chainsaw
  • These Mini Stackable Organizer Tool Boxes Look Better than Dewalt's
  • Amazon has a Name Brand Bit Ratchet Set for Surprisingly Cheap
  • Dewalt Launched 4 New Cordless Drill and Impact Combo Kits
ToolGuyd New Tool Reviews Image

New Tool Reviews

Buying Guides

  • Best Cordless Drills
  • Best Euro Hand Tool Brands
  • Best Tool Brands
  • Best Cordless Power Tool Brands
  • Tools for New Parents
  • Ultimate Tool Gift & Upgrade Guide
ToolGuyd Knife Reviews Image

Knife Reviews

ToolGuyd Multi-Tool Reviews Image

Multi-Tool Reviews

ToolGuyd LED Flashlight and Worklight Reviews Image

LED Light Reviews

  • Home
  • About
  • Contact
  • Stores
  • Videos
  • AMZN Deal Finder
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of Use
  • Disclosure