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Dewalt “WorldsFirst” New Tool Tech – What Could it Be?

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Dewalt WorldsFirst New Tool 2016

As you might have seen from our ads or elsewhere, Dewalt has some exciting news coming later this month.

They’re teasing us all with a #WorldsFirst hashtag, and some vague marketing language. We’ve asked for some hints, but for the time being, we’re playing with the same clues you are.

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A POWER SHIFT IS COMING

Hmm, what could this mean? Do you think it’s meant to be taken literally, or figuratively?

On June 21st DEWALT is launching a #WorldsFirst in power tool technology.

Okay, so the innovation is related to power tool technology. I think it’s safe to say that they’re referring to cordless power tools.

There are more clues in this video:

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Dewalt WorldsFirst New Tool Video Clue

There’s something that fits in a tool bag. What does that thingamabob look like to you?

There’s something related that cuts or grinds steel, as there are sparks flying in the video.

Something that “cuts like butter.”

Something that has “got a lot of power.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ_QEagzYTk

Here’s another video that gives the hint: power takes on many forms.

So what do you think that Dewalt will be announcing in just a few short weeks?

Update: Thanks to your sleuthing, we also know that there’s a table saw somehow in the mix:

Dewalt Worlds First New Tool Teaser Table Saw

Hmm… another clue and the plot thickens.

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106 Comments

  1. Cordless cut off saw? Bag could be for the batteries, charger and accessories.

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    • Seems a likely bet, given the sparks flying and the focus on ‘metal’ construction.

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  2. It is a battery that is 60 volts but will be automatically reformatted electronically to work in any “slide battery” style DeWalt tool. This is achieved the same way that higher amperage = lower voltage. This means if you have a 60 volt 6 amp hour battery plugged into a 20 volt tool, it will actually be an 18 amp hour battery. There will also be 120 volt cordless tools using 2 of the new batteries. This means wall outlet power from a cordless tool!

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      • There definitely is a table saw somehow involved. The camera bounces over it, but that’s definitely a table saw. Screenshot added to the post.

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        • Isn’t it a volts a bit of a bs term for cordless tools now considering that some 18v packs pull 40 amps? Is it making sense what I’m trying to say that 120v tools will be powerful, but 18v tools can be just as powerful?

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          • The same amps at a high voltage will have more power. Power = Volts x Amps

          • There is a difference between AC and DC power.

    • So maybe it’s not a single tool at all, but a universal cordless power supply system that can be used to power any plug in 120v tool (like a tablesaw or cuttoff tool) and the batteries can also power 20v tools individually?

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      • Yes! And there will be more 60 volt and 120 volt tools to use the 60 volt batteries at the higher power or multiple 60’s for tons of power!

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  3. Large loop handle @ 26 seconds in the first video. It looks like one from a chop saw or bandsaw but he is grabbing it like a large angle grinder.

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    • It looks more like their big 1/2″ drill #DWD460 with Bind-Up control.

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  4. A cordless concrete-cutting chainsaw?

    A cordless wall chaser?

    A cordless Uni-Strut cutter?

    A cordless BX cutter?

    A cordless cable prep tool?

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  6. A pipe threader? The still looks like he could be holding a large die.

    Maybe a tool with multiple heads? Like the Ridgid RE 6 only with a die grinder or angle grinder attachment.

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    • Same as with the grinder, I don’t think specialty tools would be given this much hoopla.

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  8. A month or so back there was an eBay listing of a Dewalt prototype from a pawn shop that leaked into the wild. I saw a picture of it on another tool blog. It was only posted for a few days before all images were removed. It was a heavy duty cordless angle grinder. That in and of itself was impressive. But what more interesting was the battery on it. The battery was beefy. Bigger than the 5.0 premium 20v. If I had to guess Dewalt is launching a new round off super heavy duty tools and a new battery platform and the new batteries will retroactively work with all the current 20v tools.

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  9. 60V batteries doubled up to give 120V supply.

    And hopefully a 60V mower!!!!

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  10. I dont see 60volt batteries being a thing… considering the enormous size (and cost) of a 40v dewalt batter, to up that to 60v you could be talking about $300-500 for a battery… imagine needing 2 or 4 of them for redundancy?

    Besides, 120v tools are AC, having 120v of DC power would be silly to convert to AC (and would require a big inverter for the amps in question.)

    Dont know what it is though, but dreams of powering AC motors with DC batteries seems unlikely.

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    • Brushless motors run off AC power. There is an DC/AC converter in every brushless tool. The energy conversion is more efficient than using brushes.

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      • I believe brushless motors run off a 3phase source?

        Anyway, maybe Im reading some comments wrong, but I inferred people are thinking they can plug their existing corded tools into a 120v battery and have it work. Even if your right, youd need to buy brushless corded tools…

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        • Most household appliance motors are “universal” motors, meaning they can work off of AC or DC. So a brushed motor tool that can use 120v AC or DC is not hard to imagine.

          Induction motors have no brushes and rely solely on the alternating current reversing 60 times per second and the poles of a magnet to turn.

          Brushless DC tools use induction motors with circuitry that creates an alternating current, typically 3 phase. The motors themselves are AC.

          It would be disappointing to see a table saw be brushed so it could work with household current and lose a great deal of battery life due to it not being brushless.

          Brian is absolutely right about the batteries costing a fortune.

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  11. Hand-held fusion reactor. Runs off the Deuterium content in urine. Also acts as instant workplace drug test unit. Can heat your tea, or act as a hand warmer too.

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  12. I wonder if it is relates to DeWalts cordless welder they already launched that has its own unique battery.

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    • Ah the $4000 welder. I wonder if it’s eligible for the $20 off $100 sale? LMFAO.

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    • it has its own battery because Fronius makes it, not dewalt.

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  13. The dewalt rep told me its a 60V system that will work on their 20v system. Calling it flex volt. Sounds cool but wonder $$$.

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  14. I hope it’s a brad nailer and the video/clues have actually nothing to do with it.

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    • Alas, I think it’s pretty clear from their second video that they’re releasing a cordless race car.

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  15. I was at a trade show a few months ago and the dewalt rep said their vision is a completely cordless jobsite. They had a battery powered “hybrid” welder (it could also be plugged in) and said they would have a table saw as well. I think this the “World’s first” cordless jobsite.

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    • The dewalt welder is made by Fronius, of Austria, has the power, roughly, of. a Miller Maxstar, and was over $4000, last I heard.

      Haven’t heard a peep on the arc or longevity.

      Last heard about it at least a year ago. Can’t be this product.

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  16. I was thinking you might see a universal power source device.

    LIke a tool branded version of the tesla power wall – in leiu of carting around a X watt generator you could have this Li Po power bank to draw from with multiple taps.

    or 40V max Cordless industrial centric power tools.

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  17. I didn’t think it’s a tool at all, its more revolutionary than a tool. Dewalt keeps saying power shift, I think it’s a cordless jobsite powersource like a gas generator but battery powered to power even corded tools. The tools cut like butter because the power its equal to a 1wave outlet. A huge battery source like the Tesla home battery but for the jobsite.

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    • could just put the battery into the tool though… they already have… Doesnt make alot of sense to relocated the battery away from the tool at the expense of a cord…

      I guess you could potentially have a stronger and/or lighter tool… but I cant imagine any job site is going to be without AC power access anytime soon. How would you charge the batteries? lol the cost to buy enough dewalt batteries to power a whole jobsite for a whole day…

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      • This is so you can run something much more than just a drill or such. The concept being: I really want to run my 12 inch mitre saw for a while on this project but I can’t plug in. Let me cart my powerblock – then setup my mobile stand and saw – plug in to the block and I’m independent and running a corded tool.

        for hours.

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      • Some large job sites are specing in that subs cannot run extension cords all over the place. Some can only be run overhead in specific areas etc. Cordless would help alleviate that issue and there would still be 120 available for charging stations..

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    • That was my initial thought. I mention weekly on the job site that one day we will have light Sabres and all these saws and drills for different tasks will be obsolete.

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    • Pretty crappy lightsabre then, throws continuous sparks when cutting paper. Everybody KNOWS that a lightsabre only throws a single burst of sparks. Of course, THOSE were highly advanced, mature technology lightsabres, whereas these new DeWalt LightSabres are first generation tech. I’m sure they’ll be able to get the excess sparkiness under control.

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      • There shouldn’t be any sparks if its a brushless lightsaber!!! 🙂

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  19. Is this going to be like Bosch’s claim to first in customizable tool settings when Milwaukees One Key are on the market and yet Bosch’s are in development.

    Stupid Dewalt phone coming to US.

    I cant imagine its anything great besides over hype.

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  20. Whatever it is I hope it’s not their answer to Milwaukee’s 1 key. I don’t see that going anywhere any time soon.

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  22. I’m going with 10 amp hour 20 volt max batteries, table saw, 7 inch grinder, SDS Maxx, 71/4 circular saw, power cutter and other high power / high demand tools.
    some of this may be my dreams.

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  23. In the first video the sparks appear to be spraying horizontally which would rule out a drop type cut off saw.

    My guess is if it is indeed a grinder it would most likely be 180mm.

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  24. What about the world’s first dewalt brushless… Well just about most things we’ve seen the other big boys come out with..

    Whatever it is it comes out right before my birthday.. So if it’s as big as they claim I might just need one

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  25. World’s first “pro grade” motor with interchangeable heads?

    World’s first tool to have 1 inch/lb over the current leader?

    World’s first tool to be made completely in USA?

    FWIW, in working with scrap yards, almost all loads are sold to Asian companies. How often is a Chinese tool sold with a qualifier “made with US and other components”?

    Guessing it’s another worlds first marketing dept to try this particular angle at something we’ve seen before.

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  31. Might be their cordless power supply. Pretty sure it’s 4 or 8 20v batteries hooked up to a unit and allows u to run 120v tools off world it. It also charges them.

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  32. It’s some type of cordless plasma or laser cutter.

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  33. It’s a 20v MAX powered 120v AC inverter. You heard it here first!

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  34. Universal power tool battery pack coupled to a portable internal combustion engine

    A portable internal combustion engine and a charging device that generates AC power are supported on a manually movable frame. A coupling mechanism which can include a starter circuit and starting device, or a charging circuit and charging device, or both device couples a battery receptacle terminal block to the internal combustion engine. The battery receptacle can include various features to permit and retain electrical coupling between a battery pack for a cordless power tool. For example, key protrusions and corresponding recesses can be associating with latching projections. Additionally or alternatively, cooperating rails and recesses may be associated with the battery pack and receptacle, respectively. Spring loaded movable clips or resilient flexing clips can be included to act on the battery pack. An electrical cord may also be used to couple receptacle terminals to the coupling mechanism.

    https://www.google.com/patents/US9276438?dq=Dewalt&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAzLHu5ozNAhUlxYMKHZawDUY4ChDoAQgiMAE

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    • I actually read this entire patent just now. My goodness. If you have ever wondered how many ways there are to describe a battery pack attachment, and have some serious free time on your hands, read the entire thing.

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      • Patent law was changed in 2009. One cannot patent the “idea”of a better mouse trap anymore. Now you have to patent the actual mouse trap and all it’s components. Keep in mind if you miss a few possible components, all someone has to do is change the materials used by 30% and patent is no longer enforceable. That’s what patents are crazy in-depth now.

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  35. Cant see them coming out with 120v tools or even an 18v-120v inverter. Not when the majority of the world runs 230v mains.

    Also the current draw would be ridiculous. Eg; A 230v 2200 watt drop saw, allowing for inverter losses, would draw @ 145 amps from an 18v source.

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  37. My prediction: 15 cell battery that provides 60v max at 3 amp hours or 20v max at 9 amp hours on the 20v max tools. A clever marketing answer to Milwaukee’s 9A M18 batteries. No more power (power is watts, not volts or amps) but it sounds better.

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  38. I talked to a rep last year who said they were working on a 20 -40 – 60 or up to 3 battery’s

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  39. Could that be a hydrogen fuel cell in the man’s hand?

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  40. Reading the patent from black and decker…I think Dewalt have taken their concept further. It is a clever new power source based on batteries. You use one battery to drive a motor generator that then charges multiple other batteries. You never need plug in power again. Totally grid free site tools. The unit also uses a battery style connector to cord to battery connector to connect generator to a cordless tool. Cordless tools can be used as corded from the generator.

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  41. more info leaks (reliable info) will be out 2morrow
    all VIP distributors from Europe are in Barcelona for 2 days
    (all had to sign an NDA ………….

    (but with NSA listening, who knows !!)
    cheers !

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  42. My sources tell me: No more cords, no more batteries … Worlds first complete line of solar-powered, power tools …

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  43. I’ve spoken with 7 Dewalt reps in the last week and between all of them here is what I know:

    – Focus on tools you never thought would be cordless
    – Confirmed Table saw is one of the them (186 rips on a single charge)
    – Will work with our 20v batteries!! (this is huge. My guess is double slots)

    Exciting stuff for those of us who get geeked up about yellow.

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    • I know someone who was at the European launch, it’s 54v batteries which can be doubled up to produce 108v and run machines such as the table saw mentioned above. Can be used in existing 18v / 20v max tools, but there’s also a new range of tools to match the new batteries.

      The only negative is that the price is horrendously expensive.

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    • I have pictures if anyone wants to see. They are filed with their patents online.

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  44. @Barry:

    when can you send the pics and/or link ??
    waiting
    thx

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  45. did we loose Barry ??

    2)
    also very unusual that nobody is commenting here !!!

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    • Description
      The DEWALT DCB1800B flexible portable power station is designed as a 4 port parallel charger. This 1800 watt portable power station operates with four 20V max* batteries in, 15 amps out. (Batteries sold separately). take cordless power anywhere! Specifications: max AC output 3600 watts / rated AC output 1800 watts. Max current (120V/240V) 30 amps / rated current (120V/240V) 15 amps. Required Number of batteries – (4) 20V batteries. Indicator lights: inverter and charger, operation and Fault, low battery.

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  50. Huh, so take 4 batteries, and run a corded tool…. Its cool, if you’re working somewhere that precludes a loud honda/diesel generator, but requires a corded tool… I’m sure there are a few people or trades that would like this, but I’m not sure how wide the market is.

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    • I’m still holding out hope that there’s more to/with this event as application goes. A 20v spiderbox is cool, but unless it’s tough system compatible or coming with new tools or something, I’m unsure I’ll find justification to pick it up

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  53. There is going to be 60v tools coming, batteries will work with the 20v tools as well… cordless table saw, miter saw, circular saw and recip saw are all coming in 60v all batteries are compatible with all tools

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  54. So its basically a range of 54v tools with a new dual voltage battery that is backwards compatible with their existing 20v max tools,.

    One of the new batteries is 18v at 6.0ah/54v at 2.0ah or in tool company speak 20v at 6.0 ah/60v at 2.0 ah.

    So in round figures with equal tool current draw and no allowance for losses,

    20v x 6.0 amps = 120wh. A 1200w tool will run for 6 minutes.
    60v x 2.0 amps = 120wh. A 1200w tool will run for 6 minutes.

    Unless Dewalt has some exclusive inside info on upcoming battery tech that the other companies are not privy too, (highly unlikely) its just more smoke and mirrors and one upmanship to advertise a higher voltage.

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    • The 7 1/4 circular saw is said to make 339 cuts on one 60v battery charge.

      The miter saw which is said to be a 12″ saw will make 300+ cuts on a charge as well and can be powered by AC power or battery power

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    • Somewhere I think your math is faulty. A drill with a 20 V 5 ah battery runs longer than 10 minutes. I don’t think amps and amp hours are equivalent terms. Amp hours may be one of those slippery terms like work output or whatever Dewalt uses instead of torque.

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  55. Right on Glen! This whole “whatever volt max” thing drives me nuts. They don’t pull that crap in Europe. Are we dummer than Europeans?!

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