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ToolGuyd > Power Tools > Grinders & Sanders > Makita Xtract Vac Wet/Dry Vacuum Hands-On

Makita Xtract Vac Wet/Dry Vacuum Hands-On

Oct 23, 2017 Stuart 13 Comments

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Makita Xtract Vacuum VC4710

Makita and Home Depot sent over this awesome VC4710 12 gallon Xtract wet/dry vacuum for testing and review.

They sent it along with several new concrete grinding accessories, more on that below. I haven’t had a chance for much concrete cutting or grinding (although I do have a project coming up in the spring), but a drilling and cleanup task came up recently.

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We were having some work done, and some of the tasks involved drilling into the concrete floor. One of the holes needed to be 3″ thick to accommodate some piping.

The contractor, for lack of a better title, had a Ridgid wet/dry vac. We talked a little about it, and it turns out they go through Ridgid vacs very often. I thought it was a good time to put this vac to the test.

The vac was set up quickly, although we made a poor choice of which included bag to use. The contractor opted for the plastic-walled disposable bag, but that left the filter open to dust accumulation. The filter bag would have likely been the better choice. The instructions weren’t very clear about which bag to use and when.

The manual also mentioned ventilation holes, but there weren’t any that we could see. The disposable bag, as far as I could tell, was simply a drum liner.

The filter bags, which seem to be P-78293, aren’t that much more expensive, are likely better for any task that involves fine particulate collection.

Judging from what we saw, the disposable bag was not the best choice for the work that was being done.

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One of the criticisms from the contractor was about how the vac, and many like it, was bundled with a small diameter hose. I can understand why – smaller hoses work better for collecting dust created during tool use – but he needs a 1-stop dust extractor and cleanup vac.

Chunkier debris can get caught up in hoses, blocking airflow and reducing efficiency.

Aside from our using the completely wrong bag for the task, there’s a lot of good things to say about the vac so far.

Part of my limited time with the vac was hands-on, and part of it was observational.

First, it’s QUIET! Sorry, it’s quiet. It seemed to be a lot quieter than other vacs I’ve used in the past.

The wheels were excellent. The contractor’s current Ridgid vac doesn’t have wheels on it at the moment. Why? Because they suck so bad that he doesn’t even bother wit them anymore. The Makita has 2 large wheels at the rear, and 2 smaller swivel casters at the front.

It’s quite easy to maneuver as well. While I was testing it a little before the contractor was ready for it, I noted that it doesn’t seem like it’ll tip over if you pull the hose. You of course shouldn’t be doing that, but I was checking for stability. This is a very tall vacuum, and so that’s something I was curious about.

It seemed plenty powerful, rated at 135 CFM of suction power and 92 inches of water lift.

The tank opening latches are very large and easy to toggle, there’s on-board cord storage, a flat top, accessory storage, and what looks to be good enough hose storage.

Controls are easy, with variable suction manual and automatic modes. The auto mode is activated via a connected tool. Since the contractor was using a higher powered rotary hammer, he opted to keep the tool and vac on different circuits.

“Do you want to take it with you for some extended testing?”

“YES!!”

A HEPA filter is optional.

I passed it along for added testing because it’ll be quite some time before I can clear enough of my schedule for comparative testing. I figured it’ll be good to see it get some field use.

From what I saw so far, especially with it being more stable and less noisy than expected, the Makita VC4710 Xtract vac wowed me a little bit.

Is it the best vac on the market? I can’t say, even if I had tested every vac side by side. It definitely does have a lot going for it, though. I find its tall form factor to be unusual, but not unwelcome.

It needs to see more use, in the field as well as in simulated testing, before I can wholeheartedly recommend it. But I can say this – one session was enough to dismantle any hesitations I would have in buying one.

Home Depot and Makita also sent along the following:

Makita 7-inch Corded Angle Grinder

GA7011C / 15-Amp 7 in. Angle Grinder

I have never used a 7-inch angle grinder on a personal project before, but understand that this is what you want when you have larger and heavier duty things to cut, grind, or smooth.

At what point do you go from using a 4-5″ grinder, to a 7″ grinder?

Makita Diamond Cup Wheel

A-96425 / 7 in. Diamond Cup Wheel

The grinder was accompanied with a Makita A-96425 diamond cup wheel, a low-vibration concrete-prep accessory that’s also said to be used for paint and adhesive material (presumably on concrete). This is also something I’m not at all experienced with, but I can at least say that the wheel appears to be well-made.

Here’s what the introductory email said about it:

The Makita 7″ Low-Vibration Diamond Cup Wheel (A-96425) features a 24-segment turbo rim design and is engineered for improved performance and less vibration. It is an ideal accessory for use with 7″ angle grinders with an electronic controller, and is built for paint and adhesive removal as well as concrete surface preparation. The innovative design produces fast material removal and a smooth finish, and is engineered to reduce “chatter” for improved operator comfort.

Makita 7-inch Corded Angle Grinder Dust Shroud

195386-6 / 7 in. Grinder Dust Shroud

Finally, there’s the 195386-6 grinder dust shroud, which when paired with the vac, grinder, and connection accessory, is said to create an OSHA silica rules-compliant surface prep combination.

(They provided “objective test data”, showing that under the test conditions, the combination produced a time-weighted average respirable silica dust exposure of 100 µg.m^3, equivalent to 12.5 µg/m^3 throughout an 8-hr work shift.)

Additional accessories included a P-70421 connection adapter, and P-79865 anti-static hose.

7″ angle grinders and concrete refinishing and surface prep tools are well outside my wheelhouse. Maybe we’ll do a giveaway soon, to put these tools into more capable hands.

But the vac? I’m finding myself now wishing I didn’t send it off for field testing, as I might not see it again. I really don’t think that further personal testing will turn up any major failings, it just seems like a really smooth vac, for lack of a better description.

Well, except for the bag situation, but that’s a one-time mistake. My instinct told me to go for the filter bag, but I figured that I’d go with the flow.

It’ll be some time before I hear back about how the vac is holding up, but I am expecting to hear good news.

Over at Home Depot’s site, one review for the grinder complaints about the dust creation, saying: it can create so much dust that you’re overwhelmed with the cleanup.

Home Depot Purchase Links

Thank you to Home Depot for providing the test samples!

Makita Vac (out of stock as of the time of this posting)
Makita Vac with Filter Set (also out of stock)
Makita 7″ Angle Grinder
Diamond Surface Prep Wheel
Dust Shroud
Connection Adapter
1-3/8″ x 16′ Anti-Static Hose (the same hose is included with the vac)

Reader Disclosure: We’re in a paid partnership with Home Depot this quarter (and for one more). They sent over a selection of tools for testing and review consideration. There’s also a sponsored component (projects, giveaways) in the mix.

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13 Comments

  1. Diplomatic Immunity

    Oct 23, 2017

    It should be a good vac as I believe it’s built by Nilfisk for Makita.

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  2. JMG

    Oct 23, 2017

    I have been using a 4 1/2″ version of the diamond cup wheel, and it has been holding up quite well. No noticeable chatter (per se) while grinding away on the old basement floor to remove paint and level off the high points. Has made fairly quick work of the project and the dust shroud also works as advertised. If I had a 7″ Makita grinder, I would not hesitate to purchase the 7″ cup and shroud to go with it, if I needed to grind any other surfaces.

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  3. Blythe

    Oct 23, 2017

    7” grinder is for applications that benefit from torque and tool weight, usually grinding concrete floors or grinding welds flat. You can really bear down on them for heavy material removal with minimal tool bog

    Reply
  4. Steven

    Oct 23, 2017

    Ryobi is introducing a new wet/dry vac too.

    https://www.ryobitools.com/power-tools/products/details/one-plus-6-gallon-wet-dry-vac

    Reply
  5. fred

    Oct 23, 2017

    Makita also seems to be bundling the vacuum and a grinder together – as part of their “concrete solutions” lineup

    https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=B0766BTD2Z+

    On a 7-9 inch grinder – soft-start is a nice feature.

    We had often used this size grinder for larger concrete surfaces – but had a Bosch 5 inch (1773AK) that we liked to surface steps. and concrete lintels and sills.

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    • Stuart

      Oct 23, 2017

      Amazon has a ton of new bundles for Bosch vaca too.

      As far as I can tell, they’re convenience bundles so you can add commonly bought-together items at once.

      There’s no discount compared to buying things separately.

      This does come in handy, for example when trying to find the proper lid to a 20 gallon trash bin when none of the catalog model numbers seem to work.

      Reply
  6. Jim Felt

    Oct 23, 2017

    Nice.
    But your “contractor” should have known which bag was best for the intended use. But you know that.
    And I’ll bet you’ll never see that vac again either.
    Oh well. Easy come easy go. No?

    PS. What’s the decibel rating?

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    • Stuart

      Oct 24, 2017

      59 dB(A)

      Reply
  7. ktash

    Oct 23, 2017

    The tall form factor/smaller footprint seems great, especially since it’s stable. Easier to move around.

    I built a dust collection system with a dust deputy on top and big Ridgid on the bottom. It works really well, though a slimmer vacuum would be better, but still with a large capacity. The Ridgid is bulky and awkward to move around.

    I’d love a Nilfisk-made vacuum. But Ridgid on the holiday sales is my budget. Good enough for my needs, but still love higher-end tools in general. For one thing, the quietness.

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  8. Jim P.

    Oct 24, 2017

    Remember this is a dust extractor and not a shop vac. It’s not intended for large debris cleanup, just finer dust. If properly used with brand specific tool attachments, small particles should be minimum.

    As for the bags, is it possible to be a two part system? I’ve encountered that before but not sure the manufacturer.

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    • Stuart

      Oct 24, 2017

      No. There are just 2 types of bags meant to work independently. I’ve never seen a plastic “disposable bag” type of bag before, only different kinds of fully enclosed filter bags.

      Reply
  9. Michaelhammer

    Oct 24, 2017

    You’re going to see a lot dust extractors and dust extractor pairings because of OSHA. New regulations are in effect to control silica.

    You should be able to pull the vac around by the hose. They should be able to handle all kinds of abuse. These things are designed for the worksite. In this regard the tall design is concerning. I would be worried about it tipping over either while in use or during transport. Also it would be nice to have some sort of tool case integration. Automatic filter cleaning is very beneficial when working concrete or drywall. A soft start on the vacuum is key as well. This allows you to use a single circuit for tool and vac. It should also continue to run for a few seconds after the tool is turned off to clean out the hose.

    Jim P. is right, these types of vacs are not “shop vacs” and are not intended to clean up chunks of debris. I simply drag all the chunks into a pile and scoop them up in my dust scoop, then use the dust extractor to clean the site.

    Hose storage is huge as well. It seems a lot of manufacturers give this little thought. It is often in adequate or poorly thought out. Storing with the hose still attached is an awesome way to break the connector. Precariously wrapping it around the motor is a miss as well. Designers seem to forget that these have to be carried around job sites, which very often means through hallways and stair wells in people’s homes.

    Sorry, just got way too wordy. Just check out the CT36 or 26 by Festool. They’re the best extractors on the market. They dot all the I’s and cross all the T’s.

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  10. Todd

    Oct 24, 2017

    Have 2 of these in the Nilfisk version.
    Both have had very expensive repairs under warranty and both now need very expensive repairs and just sit in my shop. Motors go and the main circuit board goes on these at around $300 for parts.
    16′ 1 1/2 hoses are nice for jobsite and aleays use the Nilfisk polypropylene costed bags, they will not tear even if you suck up water. Both vacs were around 4 years old..
    Receptacle is only rated for 5 amps so watch whT you plug into them.

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