MyToolShed, a UK tool retailer, posted some photos of the newly launched line of Dewalt 12V brushless cordless power tools.
That’s right, it’s now official – Dewalt is updating some of their 12V cordless power tools.
First up is a compact 12V brushless drill/driver.
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As shown, it is quite a bit shorter in length than the original 12V Max cordless drill. It also looks wider, but that could be an artifact of the camera angle.
There’s a new Dewalt 12V cordless screwdriver, which is likely going to be nearly identical to the new drill, except for the 1/4″ quick release hex chuck.
There is of course a new Dewalt 12V brushless impact driver as well. Early information indicates that the new model can deliver ~52% more torque than the original Dewalt 12V Max cordless impact driver.
As expected, or at least as I had hoped for, the Dewalt 12V brushless impact driver has user-selectable electronic speed/torque settings. Visually, it looks like there’s a self-tapping screw setting, as well as low and high torque settings.
Hopefully more information will soon be available. There is no comment from Dewalt USA yet, as to whether these European models will also be launching in the USA.
What I find curious is that the new Dewalt 12V cordless power tools appear to have 12V branding (or 12V Max). Previously, Dewalt and other brands have marketed 12V Max cordless powers tools as 10.8V in Europe and Australia, only using 12V Max branding in the United States, Canada, and I believe Mexico as well. There has been confusion about 10.8V and 12V Max compatibility, and similarly 18V and 20V Max, despite the tools and batteries being identical except for branding.
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Bosch has moved from 10.8V to 12V branding in Europe. Perhaps Dewalt and other brands are doing the same? Or, the simpler explanation is that they only had 3.0Ah batteries with 12V branding and not 10.8V.
That’s right, take a closer look:
Dewalt is also coming out with 12V Max compact 3.0Ah Li-ion batteries. Nice.
Did you know that my first media event was a Dewalt 12V Max cordless power tool launch event? That was a long time ago.
The Dewalt 12V Max cordless power tools lineup mainly featured drills, drivers, and impact tools, as well as a couple of specialty instruments. A reciprocating saw came out a few years later.
Now that the Dewalt 12V Max cordless power tool lineup as gone brushless, and there’s a new higher capacity and presumably more powerful battery pack, what other tools do you think we’ll see? What new Dewalt 12V Max cordless power tools do you want to see them come out with?
Big thanks to @MyToolShed for breaking the news with the first photos of the new Dewalt tools!
Paul
Been waiting a long time for them to finally upgrade the 12v lineup. Still use my 12v impact daily at work.
DannyK
With Dewalt entering 12V market again, we will have Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch, Metabo and Dewalt to choose from. Hopefully, all the brands will carry their versions of one handed hackzall and flexiclick drill like Milwaukee and Bosch.
Adrian
Any body knows when and where to buy the 12v
Andrew R Greeby
Same here my 12v impact driver is my most used power tool that thing delivers every time. I can hear the brushes are starting to go though after 1000’s of hours of use and abuse. I am really excited about possibly upgraded models.
Chris
Any idea if it’s a 1/2” chuck on the drill? Or still 3/8”? If it’s a 3/8” chuck, Dewalt missed an opportunity to compete with the m12 fuel drills.
Andy
Let me know when you find out
Stuart
3/8″.
JoeM
Those are A LOT nicer than the current generation 12V Line. If I didn’t already have the 8V 680 Gyro Screwdriver, AND the original Brushed versions of the 20V lineup, I’d actually consider these.
The more rugged design? Much better than the old “Mini-Me” versions of the 20 Volt lineup. I like it.
Brien
I’d like to see a new Dewalt 12V sub scanner.
Sean
Are the new v12 batteries going to work with the old 12 volt line?
Stuart
I don’t see why they wouldn’t, the 10.8V and 12V Max tools, batteries, and charger should all be cross-compatible.
Altan
Here is the DeWALT 60V Flexvolt Wall chaser
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvjFMldgCJA/
They made it finally, amazing, I was always saying that they should come up with a tool like that. Thanks DeWALT!
Michael
If they bring that fence stapler here I’ll be on that in hot minute!
Altan
I was so excited about wall chaser so I forgot about the fence stapler to mention. In most of the projects we had we needed always a wall chaser as walls were mostly brick or concrete, so I know how a cordless wall chaser can be useful.
Travis
Fence stapler is available for pre-order on Tool Nut website. It will be available soon.
fred
Hopefully they will bring both the wall chaser and fence stapler to the US.
I’ve seen folks in Europe using corded wall chasers – possibly Metabo.
The tool seems more popular in Europe than here.
Funny about the fence stapler – because I recent got an email promoting the cordless ones from Stockade (ITW New Zealand). They are based on the Paslode (ITW) impulse guns that use fuel canisters. They are also quite pricey.
https://www.stockade.com/products/fence-post-staplers
Bertil
Oh my, that’s a sexy looking tool!
And a lot nicer looking than my diamond blade on a circular saw with plastic taped around it to confine dust effort 😀
Altan
It looks very well made and I think it will be quite expensive, we will see soon. It has some little wheels on the base plate also.
Bill
I give up, what’s a Wall Chaser?
JoeM
Seconded… It looks like an angular track saw minus the tracks… like a… Drop-Saw? I’m talking out of total ignorance here… Would someone mind helping Bill and I out?
What’s a “Wall Chaser” and what is its specific role as tools go?
Altan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYEOGhrY0Fc
DannyK
Thanks. That’s an awesome tool.
Altan
DeWALT has made a 60V cordless version of This Makita wall chaser, Makita one has a cutting depth of 30mm and the DewALT one has a cutting depth of 35mm
alex
A wall chaser is a specialised power tool used for cutting narrow grooves in concrete walls, which is really useful in Europe but less in NA since most houses are built out of wood and not concrete.
alex
This is especially useful when you run electrical wires in a concrete wall.
Altan
I was going to say that also, I think dry wall was introduced to Europe from US as all the drywall (plaster board) screws are Phillips and not Pozi, Phillips screws are common in the US and Pozi in Europe, and Square in Canada and a bit in US, I don’t remember if I have used Phillips screws for wood in England. It is just a guess, I have not done a research about it, what I can say is that I am not very friendly with wood and plasterboard for walls, just concrete, blocks or bricks, not even light blocks, I can imagine myself doing a project in the US and people looking at me as I am crazy… I just like wood for doors, kitchen cabinet doors and furniture, nothing else.
JoeM
What’s to stop the blades from being switched out for Wood cutting blades? Then it’d open up the tool to the North American general construction market, used exactly as it would be in the UK for Concrete.
I mean, it makes sense to me, now that you fine gentlemen have explained it. I kinda wish I had this when I had to run cable through troughs along walls. If I’d had this, I’d be able to run the cable wherever I wanted, then just slide the racer blocking into these grooves. Wood, Concrete, Drywall… The only difference in any other tool is the blade… what’s stopping a Wall Racer from having the same, and therefore being equally desirable in the West?
Altan
I think North Americans should think of making solid houses made of bricks, blocks and concrete rather than thinking of this tool being used for wood 🙂
Sorry JoeM, I am not interested in wood at all for infrastructure of a building, not at all and not in any country, I have seen some movies that in America they make houses that the walls and the slope roof are concrete and poured in one go, here is the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVWS47MxnwI
I want all houses to be made like this with stainless steel roof and windows.
fred
@ Altan
Wood construction was probably adopted as the de-facto standard in North America because of the plentiful supply of wood from our forests. The sustainability and environmental consequences of wood construction can be debated – but as you note it is what’s rather standard practice on this side of the pond. Conversely – Europe with fewer forests left to harvest (although my recent travels in Finland might suggest this is not 100% true) – moved to brick and masonry.
Quality residential wood construction does seem to maintain its integrity – perhaps better than some masonry construction – during some seismic events. But that was probably secondary to cost in its choice for most homes here in the US – and we all do not live in highly seismically active zones.
It’s also interesting that Thomas Edison (perhaps ahead of his time in many instances) tried to introduce the mass building of concrete one-family homes in New Jersey. His Portland Cement Company went bust during the Great Depression. Some of his concrete houses still stand – and the thought of reviving some of his concepts get some political traction every now and then.
Meanwhile – during my working life – my companies worked on many 20 to 30 to 40+ story residential towers – none of which were framed with wood (rather obviously) – but most having drywall interior walls – most recently with steel studs. Our residential business was indeed nearly 100% wood framed – sometimes with brick or masonry exterior walls.
Alex
A wall chaser is an abrasive saw just like an angle grinder. You can’t put a circular blade in it as it spin way too fast (kickback…). You could grind wood though with the right grinding wheel but a router would be way more effective if all you want is a groove. Or buy a mafell muticutter with a dado blade if you have lot of money to spend 😉
JoeM
Why are you apologizing to me, Altan? What you’ve said isn’t offensive. You’ve used a Wall Chaser, I haven’t. I could see the American Market using it with Interior work, but not infrastructure. I’m still not perfectly sure how a Wall Chaser is USED, Infrastructure or Aesthetics considered. I was only asking a hypothetical, from my position as a total newbie to this tool, to yourself who is significantly more experienced with it.
Honestly, not every part of the Americas are stable enough to be 100% masonry. In fact, we have an insulation problem we’d have to overcome if we did go masonry-centric here. It would really only work in Desert areas, where you can guarantee no condensation on the insides of the walls.
THAT said… I live in an apartment building… We’re clad in Brick like a Castle, with Sheet Rock/Drywall internal structures, and Cement walls covered in Drywall/Sheet Rock on important structural walls. I don’t know EXACTLY what this building is made of, down to the Centimeter, but I’m pretty positive we’d fit your preference for Masonry over Wood construction. I think the building is really only divided up by Drywall and Wood, which would only make up about 10% of the whole building. Basement Garage is all Concrete and Concrete Brick, Floors and Supporting Walls are a minimum of 6″ Concrete (Minimum… Probably a lot more. I can’t literally see the walls, as they’ve been Clad in Drywall so people can hang Pictures easier.)… And frankly… I don’t honestly think any building in all of this Province, over 2 stories, is any different. The vast majority of our construction IS Concrete, Brick, and Stone. The bigger buildings use Steel and Iron rather than Wood or Timber… In fact, Timber homes are pretty much a luxury oddity in a home. We have Log Cabins, sure… Cottages made out of the stuff… yeah… But they only make up something like 1 in 1 million homes or cottages.
You okay, Altan? I’ve come to really value your insight into things, and this semi-outburst seems… I dunno… Out of character? Everything okay with you? Did I say something wrong to upset you?
Altan
Hi Joe,
I am fine, Thanks, yourself?
I think you misunderstood me 🙂 I thought I could be offensive a bit to North Americans, I did not aim to be, but some can feel it like that, that is why I said sorry to you, I am very frank and uncomplicated when I want to say my thoughts about something, I like people to behave the same with me also, In Europe and England also they use a lot of plasterboard, I have done also, but I don’t like it, The wall chaser is used for refurbishment and interiors mostly, I have seen some old English made concrete walls that the grooves for electrical wires and boxes were made together with the concrete wall, to do this they attach 25mm thick plywood (something like 50mm x 1000mm) to the panel (before they pour concrete) where they want to run the wires so they don’t need to use wall chaser later (the sides should be cut angled so you can remove the panels easily when the concrete is dry), so if I build the house from the beginning I would do all of them like that, but you need a proper drawing for electrical things specially for the kitchen, cutting with a wall chaser would still make dust even if it is attached to a dust collector, but the dust is like cigarette smoke, you would see very small particles in the air, but I would say 99% of dust would be collected.
I do agree that we can have condensation issues with concrete walls in humid areas, specially in countries like UK you can see mould on concrete walls, recently I have seen a German movie that they run something similar to underfloor heating inside the walls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPpcVijWWqo
This is a good solution
The reason they cover brick walls or concrete walls with plasterboard (drywall) is that it is quick, easy and cheap. otherwise the better way is to use wall chaser for electrical wires and boxes and then level the wall with bonding and then plaster it, but when they use plasterboard with plasterboard adhesive they can keep the wires between the plasterboard and the concrete or brick wall. I have heard that the earth’s magnetic field which is good for human body (to keep it balanced kind of) can reach maximum up to second floor, (ground, first and second floors) people who live in apartments above the second floor by time can have blood pressure problem and other heart related issues. I do live in a third floor apartment myself, but I do not like apartments, What I mean in general is that modern life style most of the times (not always)seems to bring solution for us which actually does, but creates other problems. For me a solution which creates another problem is not a solution.
I would like to use stone for walls if they are cut in block shape
I have also seen the photos of DeWALT 60V Wall chaser which is the US/Canada version, so that means they will sell it to US market also.
JoeM
Thanks for the clarification, Altan. Honestly, I just wanted to make sure that everything was okay. Yourself and Fred have taught me a great deal in a very short time on ToolGuyd. I have come to appreciate your honesty, help, and knowledge. So, much like a student having favourite teachers, if one of you shows some sign of being… I don’t know… Ill, Upset, generally “Off”… I just get a little concerned. I know that sounds stupid, but sentimentally, you, Fred, Stuart… Several others here… They all matter to me. If I’m overstepping, please, It will not offend me if you told me to back off. It is all a learning experience for me.
As to the chaser… I think that tool has many more uses in North America. Some Network Cable doesn’t take well to condensation at all, and I KNOW speaker wire hates it. So, cutting a groove in the stone walls,then lining it with plastic wiring channels so that it sits outside the wall, would allow you to run plenty of organized non-electrical/utility wires wherever you’d want to. I’m thinking in terms of a sound studio, or a school, places where they’re adding these things to already-existing structures… and I will admit many of these buildings are closer to 0% non-masonry. Concrete, Brick, and Steel. Only Wood would be in the Woodworking Class. Embedding plastic runways for audio, video, and network hardwires would capture the North American market for the Wall Chaser.
“Pouring a whole house in one shot” houses… I think that might only work here in Canada, from Alberta to Manitoba, MAYBE Northern Ontario. It rains WAY too much in British Columbia, and getting the French provinces to change for anything common sense is like pulling teeth. And I think the Maritime provinces would have a problem maintaining them in the Salt-Water air they have.
I am interested in getting homes as Eco-Friendly as possible though, so this Wall Chaser gives me plenty ideas for things that could be done. Not all of my tools get used for the exact purpose the manufacturer describes… Sometimes I get frustrated with the thick skin on my heels, and hit them with the sanding pad on either my Dremel Rotary, or DeWALT Oscillating tools. It’s wrong, I know, but it does work. This Chaser, from MY perspective, would be perfect for turning a blank Concrete floor into a workshop, with embedded power at the workbenches. Or extending electrical circuits so they’re where you want them, not where they were put when the house/building/loft/etc. was first built.
Michael
Ratchet! I know you can get a mac now but , also just some of the other handy stuff that Milwaukee and mikita have now that’s what it would take to get me to add the 12v line onto my existing 20v stuff.
Also would love for them to add some more tools to the 8v line!
Chris
I would be very surprised if Dewalt didn’t just use the Mac 12v ratchet. It would be one thing if Dewalt and Mac weren’t owned by the same parent company. But since they are sister companies I would expect them to be the same tool. Except maybe brushless.
Michael
That would be fine but they’ve had the mac for a while now so an update would be good
Altan
I liked the screwdriver, Thanks Stuart. Please try to find out more about the 60V Flexvolt wall chaser
Stuart
Will try my best!
Altan
Thanks. I got so exited that I can not sleep I think tonight, I was always dreaming of this tool, I never ever thought DeWALT would make it real even though I was repeatedly writing about it. I am waiting for a cordless soldering tool also 🙂 This tool would lead me to not look for a plumber most probably in my projects. In a way not a good tool for plumbers!
Chris
I’d love to see a cordless soldering iron from Dewalt! I’d prefer it be similar to what Ryobi has done with a base unit and a soldering iron on a lead. Maybe it would defeat the purpose of a cordless iron but it would still be handy for field work.
Altan
What I meant was a soldering tool for plumbing like Antex soldering tool
fred
If they come out with one – I hope its better constructed than the Antex.
We’d try many new tools out to see if they’d increase our productivity or improve safety, We bought Antex’s so-called professional model (PP94Q50) in 2007 and it lasted only through a few trial jobs before the plastic handles were starting to burn/melt. The idea is good for tight areas with lots of surrounding combustibles – but the execution needs some work. Finding a spot to plug it in was also a nuisance compared to using an acetylene tank – hose and torch head. Still, a good cordless one might be useful if it were compact allowing the jaws fit into tight spaces.
Altan
Dear Fred,
They should make it much better than the Antex one as they have to give 3 years warranty. This tool would be much safer than the gas torch, here in London where I live a house was burnt because of gas torch, the plumber was doing something on the roof with a gas torch (could be someone else and maybe not a plumber) and then they burnt the house like that, here is the movie, after almost one and half year they have not built it back, if they save just one house like this they can invest that money in developing this tools
https://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/news/croydon-news/purley-fire-latest-photos-show-714910
fred
@ Altan
Sad
Sloppy work or a moment’s inattention when working with a torch can have dire consequences. When I started my working life plumbers carried asbestos blankets, cloth and rope to act as fire-stop barriers. They may have prevented fires but caused other ills – as we well now know. The same is true for lead – the Latin word for which gives plumbers their name. Anyway – The potential for improved safety is one reason we tried the Antex tool. Its also a reminder that we all would do well to be always looking for new solutions to old problems.
BTW – roof fires can be started (as examples) by roofing torches, soldering copper furnaces or tar kettles as well as plumbers torches.
Stam
It seems the 12V tide is coming back.
John Flores
Ive been waiting for so long for these. I noticed the batteries are 3v also.
Corey
Unless Stu releases some breaking news that these are absolutely garbage, I will be buying at least the drill, impact, 3/8, and probably a replacement 12v pivoting recip just to have a full 12v line again. Great day for DeWalt 12v fans lol
Andrew
I for one do not understand the 12v craze. Sure if I was working in cabinets all day i could see the size and weight benefit but for everybody else they are priced to close to 18v to not get a more capable tool. Think of Silverado vs Colorado. With that said of I was in cabinets all day i like the pistal grip of the Milwaukee or Ridgid.
Bertil
If you do a job that requires a lot of legwork, any weight saved makes a huge difference
glenn
I use 12v max tools professionally and they work well for me.
NZ Tom
Ditto. Control is more important than power for a lot of work.
Chris
I have a Colorado and it’s a beast? I love it.
As for tools, 12v tools are excellent to have. There is a night and day difference in weight between the most compact 18/20v tools and 12v tools. They are another expense, I understand that, but for anyone doing a lot of overhead work or work in tight areas, nothing beats a 12v tool. My m12 drill has become my go-to drill for working at my bench or on the go. It handles everything I ask of it. If I need more power I get my Dewalt 20v drill. If I need even more power I go with my brushless Dewalt 3 speed drill.
Marvin McConoughey
A small part of the 12 volt comeback, which is limited to be sure, is that users on average are getting older. I have and use 18 volt gear but most often my tool needs are modest and a 12 volt drill or impact driver does just fine. Another factor is that brushless motors have made 12 volt batteries last longer and the batteries themselves are better than they used to be.
Aaron
will these have some sort of battery gauge? also that drill looks very fat; hopefully it’s just the angle.
Stuart
Hopefully there’s a gauge on the battery.
Details are lacking at the moment, but I’ll post more as soon as I learn anything further.
Chris
I had asked mytoolshed about the chuck size on Instagram, they replied that specs would be on their website later today.
NZ Tom
The transmission on the drill does look wider, probably to accomodate a ring gear of greater diameter, which I think allows higher revs.
Roger
I’d like to see a hoseless universal vac with collet that can attach to all the drills from regular hammer drill/driver and SDS-plus hammer drills, but in yellow. or in 20V.
I don’t understand why they didn’t call this the”ATOMIC” line. It would make more sense.
Rami
Makita has already switched into the “12V max” branding in Europe.
glenn
Australia has as well.
Todd
Just ditch the 12 v line, I doubt these are smaller than the Makita sub compacts
alex
Maybe not the tool but the battery is much smaller
jason gloekler
I am excited, even if I have most of the current 12v, including Mac impacts, lineup now.
Would like to see alot of the offerings Milwaukee has but nothing specifically.
PETE
Looks like a big fat tool head on a itty bitty battery base lol. The tools look sweet though
Robbie J.
They look good but a little late to the scene. Milwaukee has ruled over the 12v market for a while now which will make it tough to switch over. I am heavily invested in DeWalt 20v and Milwaukee 12v.
BTW 12v is perfect for electrical work IMO.
fred
I was skeptical when we bought our first batch of M12 tools for our cabinet business. When we moved from NiCad – we had bought into the Makita 18V LXT for our remodeling and GC business – so 12V seemed like it was going to be wimpy. But the installers liked what they go and we bought more. When I started selling off my interests about 10 years ago – we were using some M12 in our plumbing business too – but also M18 for tools like Super Hole Hawgs and were starting to phase in M18 Force Logic tools . Meanwhile in the remodeling business it seemed that all the crews wanted to stay with their 18V – and some 36V (Dewalt saws back then) tools. These were all separate businesses – so there was no comingling – except perhaps the sharing of ideas at the partner level.
Nathan
I’m intrigued by the screw driver – and I will say they missed the boat by not incorporating some flavor of a flex-click idea like bosch has.
maybe they will have one later. or they will bring out a 90 degree drill that has a interhangeable chuck and hex setup. I’d really consider that too.
Sort of surprised that new atomic saw isn’t a 12 volt items.
OH and side question – since the tools are brushless and thus run with a controller board – they could easily tolerate 2 input voltages. would be interesting if someone made a 12V 20V (18) common tool platform.
Marvin McConoughey
The dual-battery choice is intriguing and potentially very useful. I hope to see manufacturers adopt your suggestion.
NZ Tom
As a pro user of their 12v line, really happy to see these. Only took 18 months to wear out a motor on my 12v screwdriver. Technically only wore out the brushes, but that means a new motor in these. Had noted that the switch assembly is no longer available as a spare part, so suspected a brushless version was coming.
Will probably get the new screwdriver and impact drivers for my work repair bench, “retiring” my current two pairs to my truck and home workshop. Love the ergonomics of these little tools.
Diamond Dave
Too little and too late Dewalt! Like loads of others, I once owned the 12v Drill, Impact and Screwdriver. At the time 6-7 years ago, Dewalts initial selling features on the 12v line were a slim handle as the battery was a bottom slide mount and the second feature was the ability to stand vertical like the 18v tools. Since then Milwaukee has come out with the higher capacity L-shaped batteries and taken care out the vertical stance. The handles of the M12 line don’t seem to be as bulky as before but perhaps I have just gotten used to the thickness?
After years of waiting for Dewalt to expand on their 12v tool line-up I gave up and went with Milwaukee with no regrets! The M12 lineup is untouchable in their offerings and keep getting better! So many other companies have also improved and even implemented their own 12v tool lines from Skill to Harbor Freight. I don’t believe Dewalt can make up for years of lost time sitting on the fence as people like me are too invested in Milwaukee’s M12 and satisfied.
Stuart
(12V Max was announced in June 2010, nearly 9 years ago.)
JoeM
As a point of note: How DeWALT is doing the 12V tools seems to have a significantly more “Integral” role than other brands. The 12 Volt tools are more Niche use with the 20 Volt line than they are a separate entity.
I still hold that the Max family of Voltages, 8, 12, 20, and FlexVOLT, are all one “System” of tools. Kinda like… Milwaukee’s “Fuel” line, or M12, M18, or “Red Lithium” Lines.
Imagine a team of builders, foremen, inspectors, and renovation specialists. Now… Imagine a wall covered with the entire Max family, enough for everyone’s jobs in duplicates. Plumber isn’t going to grab the same tools for the day as the Framer, Electrician, Inspection Guy for Troubeshooting, or even the Foreman working with them. The big tools aren’t going to be carried around by the Electrician… That guy has to move around a LOT on any project. The Framer? Not quite so much. HE goes to one spot until it’s done before moving AT ALL. So he’ll have bigger tools.
Bottom level to top, they’ll need different sets of tools, and the Foreman may well be running the lighting according to the plans, plus holding the tablet that has the Bluetooth Connect registration system in it. In the REAL world, this is solved by individuals bringing their own tools they like to use, not necessarily DeWALT. But, in theory, with how little Team Yellow gets upgrades to anything but Instrumentation and Batteries, DeWALT does appear to favour servicing the needs of the Project with their Tool Family, rather than the people who work on that Project. They see a Project needing small parts of the Electrical or Plumbing lineup, not everything an Electrician or Plumber needs for a career. Figuring, otherwise, they just borrow one of the 20 Volt tools to get that twelve second task done, and go back.
Or, that is as close as I can figure the reasoning DeWALT has for its sad release cycle on the middle and little children of the family.
Altan
Hi Stuart
I have found some Stanley (not Stanley FatMax) cordless tools that actually use DeWALT batteries.
Here are the links
https://atlanticutilityservice.com/product/stanley-pbcc-40-8-8-ton-cutting-tool/
https://www.stanleyinfrastructure.com/products/cordless-td
Could you please try to find out more about them, there are more tools from Stanley which use DeWALT Batteries
Altan
Here is a movie of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1N2BCOEjMI
and also I have found this POP brand cordless riveter which works with DeWALT batteries
https://www.amazon.com/POP-CORDLESS-DIAMETER-MATERIALS-POSITION/dp/B073VXCSFF
Altan
Here you can see 60V Flexvolt Stanley tools which works with 60V DeWALT batteries.
https://www.stanleyengineeredfastening.com/tools-and-systems/power-tools-and-systems/series-b-cordless-tools
Andy
Big mistake ?
jamie
got mine a couple of days ago i got the drill/driver and impact combo kit with 2 3ah batteries in the uk and they are seriously very good tools
Andy
Anyone want to ship the impact and hammer drill combo kit to the USA? ?